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 Who Cares About Haiti? From Wall St journal

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MessageSujet: Who Cares About Haiti? From Wall St journal   Mar 23 Nov 2010 - 12:05

Who Cares About Haiti?
Extortionists drain the country's economic lifeblood while the U.N. stands by idly.
Ten months after a magnitude 7.0 earthquake killed more than 200,000 Haitians and destroyed an already decrepit infrastructure, some 1.3 million impoverished souls are still barely surviving in tent cities around the country. Living conditions are deplorable and after nearly a year, optimism about a way out of what were once dubbed "temporary" camps has dimmed.
Now more than 1,100 people have died in a cholera epidemic, and riots that began in the northern city of Cap-Haitien spread to the capital of Port au Prince last week. Protestors allege that the United Nations peace-keeping mission brought the disease to Haiti. The jury is still out on the source of the cholera, but the unrest has taken a further toll.
And so it goes. Just when you think things can't get any worse, more poverty, violence and sorrow conspire to increase the sense of helplessness in what is the ultimate economic basket case in the Western Hemisphere. Millions of people the world over watch from afar and wonder why something can't be done.
Here's the $64 million question: Is Haiti's seemingly intractable misery the result of a society and culture that is incapable of organizing itself to create civil order and a viable economy? Or is it the consequence of ruling kleptocrats—abetted or at least tolerated by influential foreigners—treating every economic transaction in the country as an opportunity for personal enrichment?
Evidence abounds that it is the latter. So why have the U.S. and the U.N. refused to take even small steps toward shutting down an official corruption racket that pushes millions of helpless people into lives of desperation? Instead they've put Bill Clinton—whose political family famously went into business with the notoriously corrupt former President Jean Bertrand Aristide—in charge of rebuilding the country with billions in foreign aid.

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A cholera victim in a Doctors Without Borders treatment center near the slum neighborhood of Cite Soleil, Nov. 19.

Development takes generations, and nation building by outsiders is a fool's game. But often there is a simple change that can yield fast returns. One no-brainer target in Haiti is the port at Port-au-Prince, where the bulk of imports must enter the country, but where Haiti's legendary mafia will only release containers after sizable bribes are collected.
A report this year by the Rand Corporation describes the port's importance this way: "The costs of shipping through Haiti's ports have imposed a major burden on Haitian consumers and businesses. Because imports play such an important role in consumption, investment, and business operations, the cost of imports is a key determinant of living standards and economic growth." And yet, Rand says, "importing a container of goods is 35 percent more expensive in Haiti than the average for developed OECD countries."
Haitian officials like to blame inefficiency at the capital's port on a lack of modern infrastructure. But Haitians know that's only part of the story. Writing for the online magazine The Root in October, Haitian-born business consultant Yves Savain explained that pulling a container out of the port in the capital "takes walking the documents from office to office to secure an unspecified number of signatures." The full cost, which he said includes "legitimate and illicit duties," constitutes "a substantial and arbitrary financial drain on all sectors of the national economy."
Mr. Savain was being diplomatic. On a visit to the Journal offices last week, former Haitian ambassador to the U.S., Raymond Joseph—who resigned in August—was more direct. "The corruption situation in the ports was one of the major reasons I decided I could no longer defend this government," he says.
In the aftermath of the earthquake, Mr. Joseph says, "I had so many [nongovernmental organizations] calling me and saying 'ambassador, could you help me get our things out of the port?' They kept telling me [port officials] want so many thousands of dollars to get the things out." Mr. Joseph says that by calling the minister of finance he could sometimes get the goods out but that he wasn't always successful.
Another example: A Nov. 14 CBS "60 Minutes" report featured the case of six containers destined for an NGO housing project that had been "stuck" in the port for months. No one could figure out why the goods couldn't be released, but the NGO was still forced to pay $6,000 to the Haitian government for an "imposed storage fee."
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Haiti holds elections on Nov. 28 for parliament and president, and enemies of representative government want to disrupt that process. This partly explains the recent violence. Yet it would be foolish to write it off as solely the work of the nefarious underworld.
Haitians are fed up with the squalor that seems to promise an end only in death. They are angry not only with their own crooked politicians but with the way in which outsiders turn a blind eye to their tormentors. The fact that Washington and the U.N. have refused to rein in the extortionists running the port demonstrates the lack of international political will to alter the status quo.
Write to O'Grady@wsj.com
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MessageSujet: Re: Who Cares About Haiti? From Wall St journal   Mar 23 Nov 2010 - 12:08

Evidence abounds that it is the latter. So why have the U.S. and the U.N. refused to take even small steps toward shutting down an official corruption racket that pushes millions of helpless people into lives of desperation? Instead they've put Bill Clinton—whose political family famously went into business with the notoriously corrupt former President Jean Bertrand Aristidein charge of rebuilding the country with billions in foreign aid.
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MessageSujet: Re: Who Cares About Haiti? From Wall St journal   Mar 23 Nov 2010 - 12:51

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Evidence abounds that it is the latter. So why have the U.S. and the U.N. refused to take even small steps toward shutting down an official corruption racket that pushes millions of helpless people into lives of desperation? Instead they've put Bill Clinton—whose political family famously went into business with the notoriously corrupt former President Jean Bertrand Aristide—in charge of rebuilding the country with billions in foreign aid.
Si'm te gen repons la m'tap Direkter Sevis Intelligans Ameriken!

Opinyon pa'm se ke jan ameriken an konnen di an si w graté dô'm, m'ap graté dô pa w!
Krim e konplisite a fok se 2+ moun ki pou ladan! Se yon main ki lave yon lot main! Korripsyon vle di konplisite!
An konklizyon e finalman, se pep Ayisyen an ki viktim.

Gouvenman Ayisyen chaje ak volo par assosyasyon avek etranje e NGO yo tou!
Anpil NGO konronpi anploye Leta yo paske se yo ki le pli souvan ofri lajan anba tab!
e pafwa NGOs yo e lot kriminel yo gen materials ki illegal nan kontener yo!
M'pap antre nan trop detay pou rezon de sekirite!!
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MessageSujet: Re: Who Cares About Haiti? From Wall St journal   Mar 23 Nov 2010 - 13:01

Revelation,

Si w tap pale de Jean Claude Duvalier mwen tap di so what? nou te deja ka atann nou ak sa! Po dyab Jean Claude lita dwe rele moun kite dako lite vinn prezidan a 19 van kom neglijan! Men nap pale de youn nonm kite pret katolik, kite voyaje e etidye gras ak lajes legliz la ak gouvenman Divalye ktei bal bous detid, youn nonm ke yo dim ki pale 25 lang, youn nonm ki odesi de tout soupson, pwofet pov-malere, pi vilnerab, ak sak nan plis soufrans andedan peyi. Nap aple de youn nonm kite di kapitalis se peche motel. Nap pale de youn nonm kite di davans si pa genyen sitirez pa genyen volo. Nap pale de youn nonm ki tap kritike ke 90 milyon nan komes ak US selman pa rive jwenn pep la. Nap pale de oyun nonm ki charye tout soufrans ak lespwa pep la nan oyun kouran lavalas kita pwal pote jistis ak devlopman ekonomik pou tout moun! Youn nonm kite di ke yo ta pwal bay gouvenman kann kale makout ekszanp gouvenman kap travay ak etik e onetete!

Ki fini pase 3 zan nan Washingotn, aksepte 21 kout kanon Tonton Sam, tounen ak 20 mil solda ameriken, marye youn fanm ameriken, ki sote ponpe pou yo bay pitit li pendan li prezidna ayisien nasyonalite ameriken, ki chaje lajan ameriken, sekirite ameriken, elikopte, fleet mashinn tou nef...

Ki jodya selon denye entrevi li sot bay Haiti Libete tounen youn anti kapitalis anko!

Nap pale de "l'intelligent" (nan sans Kreyol) Dr. Jean Bertrand Aristide!
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MessageSujet: Re: Who Cares About Haiti? From Wall St journal   Mar 23 Nov 2010 - 13:55

Dillibon,
Se pa Prezidan Aristide ki inventé, ni introdwi korripsyon ak racket nan peyi Dayiti!

Aktivite kriminel sa yo te deja la nan peyi a! Se pa la penn pou antre nan fanmi'l ni nan pitit'li, ni nan madam li! ni nan relasyon li avek blanmeriken.
Korripsyon ap toujou exziste, sepandan li chanje met ak metress! Jodi a se tou pa lot , demen se tour pa yon lot group.

M'pap defand GNBist ni Lavalasyen!! Se intere pep la ke 'm we!

Nou ta remen we krim fiskal e administrative nan peyi Dayiti vini yon "krim kont l'Humanité" pou 2 rezon.

1) Lajan sa yo se lajan Assistans internasyonal e yo gen dwa poze la patt sou volo [lokal e internasyonal] kap volo assistans humaniter e jije yo devan yon tribinal internasyonal.
Kriminel ki gen zamm fandfwa kap mete enpe moun a té e touyé yo.
Men kriminel ki gen komesans ak konneksyon pou volo, se tout yon generasyon yon peyi ke yo mete a té e touyé.

2ziemm rezon se toujou pep la ki pedi nan jwet sa yo e fok yo jwen jistis.
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MessageSujet: Re: Who Cares About Haiti? From Wall St journal   Mar 23 Nov 2010 - 13:58

Nou tounen ak O GRADY ankò.

Madanm sa a ,se te yon manm aktif HAITI DEMOCRACY PROJECT.Mwen pa bezwen di plis.
Si moun sa yo ta reprann aktivite lan yon lòt gouvènman REPIBLIKEN ,nou mèt di peyi DAYITI mouri lan fim lan.
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MessageSujet: Re: Who Cares About Haiti? From Wall St journal   Mar 23 Nov 2010 - 21:40

Tout moun konnen ke Wall Street Journal se yon Journal reyaktyonè.Alò se koulyè ya Raymond Joseph konnen genyen koriptyon an ayiti.ki donk Bill Clinton pi korompi pase Georges Bush ?men moun sa yo konpran ke tout moun se enbesil wi?Apre ke raymond josep finn pase tou tan saa nan anbasad kote li fè anpil lajan sou do peyi ya koulyè ya kom ansyen rat de la politik li kite bato ke li wè ki ap koule ya vit; foli presidan monte nan tet li li se anti Preval pakse preval ak CEP ba ni li ni neve l kanè.Si Bill clinton se patnè Aristide nan krim ki jan fè jodya Aristide still an afrik di sid?se hilary Clinton ki minis zafè etranje o Zeta Zuni wi.
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MessageSujet: Re: Who Cares About Haiti? From Wall St journal   Mer 24 Nov 2010 - 0:38

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Revelation,

Si w tap pale de Jean Claude Duvalier mwen tap di so what? nou te deja ka atann nou ak sa! Po dyab Jean Claude lita dwe rele moun kite dako lite vinn prezidan a 19 van kom neglijan! Men nap pale de youn nonm kite pret katolik, kite voyaje e etidye gras ak lajes legliz la ak gouvenman Divalye ktei bal bous detid, youn nonm ke yo dim ki pale 25 lang, youn nonm ki odesi de tout soupson, pwofet pov-malere, pi vilnerab, ak sak nan plis soufrans andedan peyi. Nap aple de youn nonm kite di kapitalis se peche motel. Nap pale de youn nonm kite di davans si pa genyen sitirez pa genyen volo. Nap pale de youn nonm ki tap kritike ke 90 milyon nan komes ak US selman pa rive jwenn pep la. Nap pale de oyun nonm ki charye tout soufrans ak lespwa pep la nan oyun kouran lavalas kita pwal pote jistis ak devlopman ekonomik pou tout moun! Youn nonm kite di ke yo ta pwal bay gouvenman kann kale makout ekszanp gouvenman kap travay ak etik e onetete!

Ki fini pase 3 zan nan Washingotn, aksepte 21 kout kanon Tonton Sam, tounen ak 20 mil solda ameriken, marye youn fanm ameriken, ki sote ponpe pou yo bay pitit li pendan li prezidna ayisien nasyonalite ameriken, ki chaje lajan ameriken, sekirite ameriken, elikopte, fleet mashinn tou nef...

Ki jodya selon denye entrevi li sot bay Haiti Libete tounen youn anti kapitalis anko!

Nap pale de "l'intelligent" (nan sans Kreyol) Dr. Jean Bertrand Aristide!


DEFINITIVMAN,OU PA GEN MATYE GRIZ VRE.SA PA ETONEM SI YO DIM KE OU SE PWODUI YON ELEFAN AK YON BOURIK.
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MessageSujet: Re: Who Cares About Haiti? From Wall St journal   Mer 24 Nov 2010 - 8:59

nan lame te genyen yon lod jeneral ki di sak fè kk se li ki pou peyel.mwen pap defann oken volò ke li te a blouz blanch sou li ou byen ak yon rob pè sou li.men tou fok se devan yon tribinal pou yo jije.Lè yon moun pa konnen istwa koriptyon nan peyi dayiti wap toujou vle se Aristide selman ki pou peye po kase ya.Moun ki tap manje vant deboutonnen nan lot rejim anvan yo vle ba Aristide tout non 'volè pa yo pa volè li se te yon ti moun piti.men moun ki te la ki te wè konnen ke koriptyon an ayiti eksiste depi ti kòkòm tap goumen ak berejenn e li ap kontinye jis koulyè ya kote kakakok di se CNE ki ranplase regie du tabac et des allumetters ki te eksiste sou Duvalier kote yo di siklè ki te nan yon dech nwa anvan 57 mouri multimilyonè apre ke li te pase yon bout tan kom direktè Regie ya.Luckner Cambronne apre li te pase nan Renovation nantionale te di li pa razè pou 4 eme jeneratyon .se menm bagay Roger lafontant te di tou li di depi drapo monte lè maten an ayiti lajan l ogmante de 100.000 dola.e tout moun sa yo se te ti malere san senk anvan yo te vinn Minis ;Alò lè nap pale de moun ki genyen dwet long fok se tout pou nou kondane se pa presidan yo selman.e majorite ayisyen ki ap chache job Minis,Anbasadè ,presidan ,premye Minis se deyè sa yo ye paske pou yo volè leta pa volè.Si se vre nou vle kwapé koriptyon nan peyi ya se pou nou mete tout volè devan yon peloton sou chan de mars lan epi voye yo nan peyi san chapo apre ke yon tribinal finn jije yo. se pa di nou kreye UCREF epi li pa genyen oken otorite pou mete men nan pat kasav volè yo.Se vre yon moun ki ap touche tout lajan saa an ayiti epi wap volè ankò se yon krim kont limanite ou fè.
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MessageSujet: Re: Who Cares About Haiti? From Wall St journal   Mer 24 Nov 2010 - 11:04

DEFINITIVMAN,OU PA GEN MATYE GRIZ VRE.SA PA ETONEM SI YO DIM KE OU SE PWODUI YON ELEFAN AK YON BOURIK.

Eh byen mwen se fanmi w! We se ras ou! Sak matye griz la se pa virus kolera lavalasik la? Konnen lang Kreyol se youn senp tradiksyon mo ta mo de lang franse. "Entelijan" nan sans ayisien an!
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MessageSujet: Re: Who Cares About Haiti? From Wall St journal   Mer 24 Nov 2010 - 11:21

se avè m wap pale ?sam di nan teks anvan se pa la verite?Mwen pa di nou ke mwen te la mwen te konn sak tap pase nan peyi ya mwen te konn dòmi menm nan palè ya .nou pa ka banm manti non.
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