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 Return Former President Jean-Bertrand Aristide to Haiti - Miami Herald

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MessageSujet: Return Former President Jean-Bertrand Aristide to Haiti - Miami Herald   Dim 23 Jan 2011 - 16:33

The Miami Herald ran a full-page statement (Sunday, January 23, 2011) sponsored by the Haiti Action Committee in California, calling for the return of Haitian President Jean-Bertrand Aristide from exile in Haiti. The statement is signed by politicians, activists, and other prominent figures, including Dr. Paul Farmer, founder of Partners in Health, Danny Glover, actor and activist, and Reverend Jesse Jackson.

(see full statement, with list of signatories, here: http://canadahaitiaction.ca/content/miami-herald-runs-full-page-statement-calling-return-aristide )

An Urgent Call:
Return Former President Jean-Bertrand Aristide to Haiti


In the aftermath of the terrible earthquake that shook Haiti on January 12th, 2010, calls for the return of former President Aristide have been growing louder. Last July 15, 10,000 people took to the streets in Port-au-Prince to commemorate President Aristide’s birthday and call for his return. A broad sector of Haitian grassroots organizations, women’s groups, human rights activists and educators have made it clear that now is the time to end President Aristide’s forced exile in South Africa. A petition circulating among Haitian women gathered well over 20,000 signatures within a few days, calling for the return.



President Aristide has publicly stated that he wishes to return home to Haiti to participate in Haiti’s recovery. President Aristide’s support among Haiti’s poor, who elected him twice as president, and who represent the vast majority of the Haitian population and are those most affected by the recent devastating earthquake, remains strong. There are no legal obstacles to his return; in fact Article 41 of Haiti’s Constitution, declares that “no individual of Haitian nationality can be deported or forced to leave the country for any reason whatsoever,” and Article 41-1 states that “no Haitian needs a visa to leave the country or to return to it.”



Nevertheless, President Aristide remains in exile because the Haitian government, the United States, France, Canada, and the United Nations forces in Haiti have blocked his return. The Haitian government has not responded to President Aristide’s request for the issuance of a passport. U.S. and UN officials have issued public statements opposing his return.

But they do not speak for the people of Haiti. As demonstrations for President Aristide’s return continue in Haiti, as broad sectors of Haitian society echo this call, as the voices of those living in refugee camps across the devastated city of Port-au-Prince and throughout Haiti reach us, we reiterate and support their demand.



We call on the Haitian government to immediately renew President Aristide’s passport as he has requested, and to facilitate his return, without any conditions, to the country of his birth. We call on the international authorities, particularly the United Nations and the United States government, to end their opposition to President Aristide’s return. Justice, humanity and respect for self-determination are at the heart of this issue. All hands are needed in Haiti at this difficult moment.
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MessageSujet: Re: Return Former President Jean-Bertrand Aristide to Haiti - Miami Herald   Dim 23 Jan 2011 - 16:40

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The Miami Herald ran a full-page statement (Sunday, January 23, 2011) sponsored by the Haiti Action Committee in California, calling for the return of Haitian President Jean-Bertrand Aristide from exile in Haiti. The statement is signed by politicians, activists, and other prominent figures, including Dr. Paul Farmer, founder of Partners in Health, Danny Glover, actor and activist, and Reverend Jesse Jackson.


I don't get it...

Who are Dr. Paul Farmer, Danny Glover, and Jesse Jackson?

Are they citizens of Haiti or United States?

How can they call their group Haiti Action Committee in California?

This is unacceptable....
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MessageSujet: Re: Return Former President Jean-Bertrand Aristide to Haiti - Miami Herald   Dim 23 Jan 2011 - 19:45

I don't know any haitian who has done more for the poors in haiti than Dr Paul Farmer;he is more haitian than many of us who are just writing franseeuuuu in this forum.To question the sincerity of Danny Glover is ludicrous.Rev. jesse jackson has spent his life fighting for social justice in the world.These are people who not only talk the talk ,but they also walk the walk.It is time that people who abhor injustice in the world stand -up and fight.We need more solidarity and love among ourselves.people who are lovers of justice, liberty ,fraternity and egality must be more willing to fight when an injustice is done to any of us.If Arsitide is accused of crimes then it behooves to his prosecutors or persecutors to present their cases in front of a tribunal in his country.
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MessageSujet: Re: Return Former President Jean-Bertrand Aristide to Haiti - Miami Herald   Dim 23 Jan 2011 - 19:47

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I don't know any haitian who has done more for the poors in haiti than Dr Paul Farmer;he is more haitian than many of us who are just writing franeeuuuu in this forum.To question the sincerity of Danny Glover is ludicrous.Rev. jesse jackson has spend his life fighting for social justice in the world.These are people who not only talk the talk ,but they also walk the walk.It is time that people who abhor injustice in the world stand -up and fight.We need more solidarity and love among ourselves.people who are lovers of justice, liberty ,fraternity and egality must be more willing to fight when an injustice is done to any of us.If Arsitide is accused of crimes then it behooves to his prosecutors or persecutors to present their cases in front of a tribunal in his country.


No matter what is your point, these foreigners are not allowed to write in the name of our people....
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MessageSujet: Re: Return Former President Jean-Bertrand Aristide to Haiti - Miami Herald   Dim 23 Jan 2011 - 19:56

What do you mean they are not allowed to write in the name of our people?Are they writing about something that concerns only haitians? Are you more haitian than Dr paul farmer who had contacted tuberculosis in haiti because he wanted to help the poors?Do you know who is Dr Paul Farmer? maybe wou would say that nobody should write about the holocauste because it is an internal problem of the german people if you were living in the 40's.

The more You write the more i doubt about your sincerity in defending the cause of the poors in haiti.What a disappointment.
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MessageSujet: Re: Return Former President Jean-Bertrand Aristide to Haiti - Miami Herald   Dim 23 Jan 2011 - 19:59

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I don't know any haitian who has done more for the poors in haiti than Dr Paul Farmer;he is more haitian than many of us who are just writing franeeuuuu in this forum.To question the sincerity of Danny Glover is ludicrous.Rev. jesse jackson has spend his life fighting for social justice in the world.These are people who not only talk the talk ,but they also walk the walk.It is time that people who abhor injustice in the world stand -up and fight.We need more solidarity and love among ourselves.people who are lovers of justice, liberty ,fraternity and egality must be more willing to fight when an injustice is done to any of us.If Arsitide is accused of crimes then it behooves to his prosecutors or persecutors to present their cases in front of a tribunal in his country.


No matter what is your point, these foreigners are not allowed to write in the name of our people....


P.J. Crowley wasn't talking in the name of Haitian people when he said that Haitians shoudn't look back in the past?

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MessageSujet: Re: Return Former President Jean-Bertrand Aristide to Haiti - Miami Herald   Dim 23 Jan 2011 - 20:00

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What do you mean they are not allowed to write in the name of our people?Are they writing about something that concerns only haitians? Are you more haitian than Dr paul farmer who had contacted tuberculosis in haiti because he wanted to help the poors?Do you know who is Dr Paul Farmer? maybe wou would say that nobody should write about the holocauste because it is an internal problem of the german people if you were living in the 40's.

The more You write the more i doubt about your sincerity in defending the cause of the poors in haiti.What a disappointment.


If I cannot be more American than your Dr paul farmer, he cannot be more Haitian than me....

No one can be both at the same time...
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MessageSujet: Re: Return Former President Jean-Bertrand Aristide to Haiti - Miami Herald   Dim 23 Jan 2011 - 20:05

It is not suffice to open your mouth and say :i am haitian or I am american.You have to be willing to sacrifice your life for that country.as far as i am concerned Dr Farmer is more haitian than many of us myself included.You mean Jean Claude Duvalier is more haitian than Dr Paul Farmer ?,not in my book.Injustice in the world is not a national problem it is a world problem therefore every human being has the right and the duty to fight it whereever it manifests itself.
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MessageSujet: Re: Return Former President Jean-Bertrand Aristide to Haiti - Miami Herald   Dim 23 Jan 2011 - 21:06

WOZO;

Some people on this site are leaving in their own little world.One thing ,i would say ,among the personalities who have signed this petition are some who have fought against apartheid in SOUTH AFRICA and forced the REAGAN REACTIONARIES who were cozying up with the BOERS to rectify their attitude.

People like MOLEFI ASSANTE ,HARRY BELAFONTE,JESSE JACKSON etc..

These old warriors are again fighting the good fight
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MessageSujet: Re: Return Former President Jean-Bertrand Aristide to Haiti - Miami Herald   Dim 23 Jan 2011 - 21:41

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Some of them are really living in their own world.How do you explain the opinions expressed in this forum by some zentelektyel(lol)ah ah ah ?It is unbelievable,the restavekism and the ti lolitisme are incurable diseases , my friend.
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MessageSujet: Re: Return Former President Jean-Bertrand Aristide to Haiti - Miami Herald   Lun 24 Jan 2011 - 10:01

Colocolo ecrit,

"I don't get it...

Who are Dr. Paul Farmer, Danny Glover, and Jesse Jackson?

Are they citizens of Haiti or United States?"



My friend Colocolo,

They are first and foremost
: PROFESSIONAL OPPORTUNISTS ! MEMBERS OF THE CIVILIAN "BLACK CAUCUS OU Black kokins" pirat pirat pirat
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MessageSujet: Re: Return Former President Jean-Bertrand Aristide to Haiti - Miami Herald   Lun 24 Jan 2011 - 11:38

DR PAUL FARMER IS BLACK?
IT'S' NEWS TO ME.
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MessageSujet: Re: Return Former President Jean-Bertrand Aristide to Haiti - Miami Herald   Lun 24 Jan 2011 - 13:46

This moron doesn't know ABC ,and he wants to give lessons on this forum.I thought the black members of Congress were called black koken by the GNBIST;since when Dr Paul Farmer.Danny glover and Rev Jesse jackson , a man who sacrifices his life for social justice were members of the Congress of the United Sates? This ignoramus thinks he is still in the kingdom of the blinds where a one eye man is king.wake up stupid you are on the highway of a new age where information is available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week and 365 days a year.You can not fool all the people all the times any more;you fool.Go somewhere else to kneel in front of Jean Clown.(lol)
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MessageSujet: Re: Return Former President Jean-Bertrand Aristide to Haiti - Miami Herald   Lun 24 Jan 2011 - 14:55

Joël,

Un peu d'exercice mental ne vous ferait pas de mal, vous savez. La lecture appropriée de bons textes instructifs et le dialogue avec des amis intelligents font souvent obstacle aux outrages du temps, aux injures de la vieillesse et les vexations beaucoup trop visibles de la sénilité .J'ai déjà lu votre Farmer et son petit bouquin « deye monn gan monn ». Ça ne m'a pas impressionne du tout .Quand on n’a rien à foutre, on va en Haiti pour donner une nouvelle direction a sa vie et retourner enfin chez soi avec des lauriers fanés de batailles qui n’ont jamais eu lieu .

Si je dis que quelqu'un est un démocrate, je ne fais aucune allusion aux caractéristiques particuliers de sa morphologie .Je me referais tout simplement à un état d'esprit ,comme quand je me sers du mot Congo pour dépister et exposer le comportement et le langage des traitres ,des opportunistes et des assassins qui veulent se faire passer pour haïtiens .Un Congo peut être un mulâtre ou un noir ou un américain en ce qui me concerne .Nous en avons malheureusement des échantillons sur ce forum.

Quant à l'humeur méchante de votre mentor qui l’a conduit en cette position inconfortable entre l'enclume et le marteau à cause de l'excentricité de ses lacunes intellectuelles, je ne sais que dire à ce propos .Il me semble que le singe n’a pas encore perdu son pelage et qu’il vient à peine de sortir de son monde arboricole pour adopter la position verticale en terrain découvert. Il est gauche et si son intellect est le miroir fidèle de son évolution, il a encore bien des marches à gravir pour atteindre ce plateau qui excite son envie et provoque son aigreur.

Messieurs,

Si vous voulez m’affronter, il va falloir faire mieux que ça .Vous êtes vraiment des monstres accablants de médiocrité qui tuent le dialogue. Vous provoquez en moi ce grand ennui que je ressens à la vue de la bêtise fortifiée par l’insolence du vulgaire .Vous m’obligez à me rabaisser a un niveau primaire qui me gêne .Et cela, vraiment, est un abus de votre nouvelle condition d’homme qui vous accorde le privilège de chasser là où évoluent les meilleurs spécimens de l’espèce. Grognez tant que vous voulez mais de Grace, ayez un peu de décorum, le forumhaiti n’est pas une jungle.

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MessageSujet: Re: Return Former President Jean-Bertrand Aristide to Haiti - Miami Herald   Lun 24 Jan 2011 - 15:54

Le gros roseau a écrit:
This moron doesn't know ABC ,and he wants to give lessons on this forum.I thought the black members of Congress were called black koken by the GNBIST;since when Dr Paul Farmer.Danny glover and Rev Jesse jackson , a man who sacrifices his life for social justice were members of the Congress of the United Sates? This ignoramus thinks he is still in the kingdom of the blinds where a one eye man is king.wake up stupid you are on the highway of a new age where information is available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week and 365 days a year.You can not fool all the people all the times any more;you fool.Go somewhere else to kneel in front of Jean Clown.(lol)


WOZO;

Mwen pa fouti konprann ti nèg.Yo bezwen montre yo konnen e se rans y ap repete.
Se yon zafè BLAK KOKEN.Nèg yo menm di ke KONGRÈSMANN AMERIKEN ta ka pran lajan lan men ARISTIDE.
Ou isit lontan ;ou sonje senatè DEMOKRAT NEW JERSEY an ,se te yon senatè pwisan ki pa t menm pran lajan ilegalman non;yo te pran misye lan yon operasyon ""sting"",misye te pran 5 an prizon pou sa.
Mwen pa sonje non misye;mwen kwè misye te rele HARRISON.
Nèg kontinye ap rele BLAK KOKEN.
SI MESYE KONGRÈSMAN NWA AMERIKEN YO ,TA PRAN LAJAN LAN MEN ARISTIDE POU KWAKESESWA ;YO T AP METE TOUT ANBAKÒD.

Map kontinye di ,si ARISTIDE ta tounen ;angiz nèg konprann se ARISTIDE yo ta ka mete anbakòd ;se petèt yomenm pito;paske menm pwopagann yo pa konn fè
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MessageSujet: Re: Return Former President Jean-Bertrand Aristide to Haiti - Miami Herald   Lun 24 Jan 2011 - 16:35

A ce carnaval de l’indigence intellectuelle qui se déroule sous les auspices ténébreuses de la mairie gériatrique du virtuel, si c’est bien votre malchance d’être pris dans les tenailles de son parcours en pleine rue, il faut apprendre à danser au rythme de l'Imposture : Attaquer verbalement l'interlocuteur, tourner en rond, dévier du sujet et démontrer maladroitement une maitrise du sujet qui n'est autre que déception.
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