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 Selesten bay KEP kondisyon pou l kapab patisipe lan dezyèm twou.

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MessageSujet: Selesten bay KEP kondisyon pou l kapab patisipe lan dezyèm twou.   Jeu 17 Déc 2015 - 3:01


As European Union election monitors arrived in Haiti on Tuesday to prepare for this month’s presidential runoff vote, the country’s electoral crisis deepened.

Presidential runoff candidate Jude Célestin, who has called the first round results a “ridiculous farce,” is blaming the impasse on the country’s beleaguered Provisional Electoral Council (CEP). Responding to a CEP invitation to meet, he said they don’t need a sit-down with him to plan good elections.

Still, Célestin, 53, said he’s more than happy to meet with elections officials on the organization of the runoff just as soon as a commission charged with evaluating the Oct. 25 first round vote finishes it work.

“The evaluation commission is obligatory in order to save the electoral process, to prevent the country from falling into the abyss,” Célestin said. “Today, neither me as a candidate nor you as individuals charged with organizing elections, can play with the country’s future. It’s time for us to take good decisions that will prevent the country from falling into a hole.”

Célestin’s hardline, delivered Tuesday in a four-page letter to the CEP, comes on the heels of an equally stern position by his coalition of eight presidential candidates, dubbed the G8. The group has rejected a “commission of guarantee,” offered by authorities to provide greater scrutiny to the runoff. Instead, the group reiterated its call for an independent inquiry into the vote along with other changes ahead of the runoff.

THE PRESIDENCY IS IMPORTANT. BUT GOOD ELECTIONS ARE MORE IMPORTANT.
Jude Célestin, Haiti presidential runoff candidate

Célestin’s advisers have said there is no difference between the two requests, but that his call for a “commission of evaluation” goes beyond just recounting votes. There are also additional reforms that must be put in place to ensure a more credible process. The commission also must be independent, they said, because the CEP can’t evaluate itself.

READ HAITI PRESIDENTIAL RUNOFF CANDIDATE JUDE CÉLESTIN'S LETTER IN FRENCH TO THE NINE-MEMBER PROVISIONAL ELECTORAL COUNCIL.
READ HAITI PRESIDENTIAL RUNOFF CANDIDATE JUDE CÉLESTIN'S LETTER IN CREOLE TO THE NINE-MEMBER PROVISIONAL ELECTORAL COUNCIL.

Should the demands not be met, both Célestin and the G8 have warned that Haiti risks being without a president on Feb. 7 — the constitutionally mandated date for President Michel Martelly to hand over power to an elected president.

The international community, citing the importance of the date, has rejected demands for a recount. Meanwhile, last month the CEP published the final results officially pitting Célestin, the former head of the state construction agency, against government-backed candidate Jovenel Moïse. Célestin received 25 percent of the vote while Moïse had 33 percent, the CEP said, also dismissing calls for a deeper verification.

The publication immediately sparked protest in a process that was already under fire by allegations of vote rigging, and ballot stuffing and procedural breakdowns that led to some people casting multiple ballots. In recent weeks, the widening chorus of doubt over the results’ credibility have grown from Célestin and the G8, to local election observers, human rights organizations, powerful religious leaders and U.S.-based diaspora organizations. All are calling on the CEP to provide “truth and transparency.”

“The presidency is important,” wrote Célestin, who noted the growing demands in his letter. “But good elections are more important for the development of democracy, meaning the development of the country.”

Twice the CEP has invited Célestin to meet. He has refused, reminding that the process can’t go on until the credibility problems are addressed. Moïse, who has met with the council and has been campaigning, has rejected the fraud allegations, acknowledging only that there may have been some small irregularities in the vote.

On Monday, CEP executive director Mosler Georges said technically everything is set for a Dec. 27 vote, but the fate of the runoff is up to the nine members. Hours later, the opposition announced six days of protests including for Wednesday, Christmas Eve, New Year’s Eve and New Year’s Day.

“The country’s situation is grave, and tomorrow it can become even sadder,” said Célestin, who has refused to campaign. “Everyday that passes without you taking the necessary decisions, the closer the country moves to falling into a hole.”

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/haiti/article49950505.html#storylink=cpy
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MessageSujet: Re: Selesten bay KEP kondisyon pou l kapab patisipe lan dezyèm twou.   Jeu 17 Déc 2015 - 6:58

Lan yon bagay ki san PRESEDAN ,MIAMI HERALD pibliye let SELESTEN an ,lan ORIJINAL KREYOL lan.

Li lan yon PDF ki difisil pou repwodwi e yon ADRES yon kilomet long.
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MessageSujet: Re: Selesten bay KEP kondisyon pou l kapab patisipe lan dezyèm twou.   Jeu 17 Déc 2015 - 7:11


Jowèl,
Sesa. mwen te eseye kopye l, men mwen pat kapab, se sak fè m mete lyen pou atik lan. Mwen kontan w wè sa tou.
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MessageSujet: Re: Selesten bay KEP kondisyon pou l kapab patisipe lan dezyèm twou.   Jeu 17 Déc 2015 - 17:04

A quoi joue Jude Célestin?
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MessageSujet: Re: Selesten bay KEP kondisyon pou l kapab patisipe lan dezyèm twou.   Jeu 17 Déc 2015 - 18:16

Apre midi an MATELI ak yon ka PLIM nonmen yon KOMISYON ki gen PI GWO NEO-MAKOUT ,MAGOUYE ,POUTCHIS ki rele RONY DESROCHES lan.

Si misye ta aksepte yon KOMISYON ki gen GANSTE FO-KOL ki rele RONY DESROCHES ladan l ;se ke misye ta touche vre.

MISYE ka vin yon LIDE apre KRIZ sa a ;men premye bagay pou l fe se pou l di MATELI ak yon ka PLIM al dyayi ak KOMISYON TET CHAT sa a.
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MessageSujet: Re: Selesten bay KEP kondisyon pou l kapab patisipe lan dezyèm twou.   Jeu 17 Déc 2015 - 21:43

Mais qu'est-ce qu'on nous veut?

C'est vrai qu'ils continuerent a pratiquer l'esclavage mais nous les avons aides a se sortir de leur propre enfer a bien y penser.
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MessageSujet: Re: Selesten bay KEP kondisyon pou l kapab patisipe lan dezyèm twou.   Ven 18 Déc 2015 - 4:42

Ki mirak KOMITE pou gade ki jan ELEKSYON yo te fet yo ,komite ke MATELI nonmen an,pa t gen GEORGE MICHEL?

Gen 4 a 5 NEG ke PRES ANMH-FADH lan renmen mete sou SENN lan depi gen PWOBLEM lan peyi an.

2 LADAN yo se RONY DESROCHES ak GEORGE MICHEL.Mesye sa yo se "out and out" FASIS.
Mesye sa yo ap fe "la peche en eaux troubles" depi premye KOUDETA MILITE kont ARISTID lan ,an 1991.

Ou pral we PRES ANMH-FADH lan pral bay mesye sa yo KREDIBILITE ,men y ap jwe yon JWET DANJERE ,paske REPORTEURS SANS FRONTIERES revele TET li kom yon OGANIZASYON NEO-FASIS e GOUVENMAN AMERIKEN an pa pwoteste anko le GOUVENMAN PWOGRESIS yo ap demantle PRES KOPORATIS de DWAT yo anko!
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MessageSujet: Re: Selesten bay KEP kondisyon pou l kapab patisipe lan dezyèm twou.   Ven 18 Déc 2015 - 10:38

Sa a se yon ATIK ki paret sou THE NATION ;REVI,MAGAZIN ki pi ANSYEN OZETAZINI ;li komanse paret depi 1868.
http://thenation.com/article/haitians-are-rising-up-against-the-stolen-elections

 Haitians Are Rising Up Against the Stolen Elections

The country is dominated more than ever by MREs—Morally Repugnant Elites—and post-earthquake aid from Washington, guided by the Clintons, has mostly benefited American subcontractors.


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James NorthTwitter

November 13, 2015

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Thousands of demonstrators supporting various presidential candidates took to the streets across Haiti this week. (Daniel Morel)

The unrest sweeping across Haiti in response to the rigged October 25 presidential election is a decisive repudiation of US foreign policy, and a particularly stinging rebuke to Bill and Hillary Clinton. The Clintons must be secretly relieved that the Republican Congress wasted time investigating Benghazi, since the crisis in Haiti shows how the twosome terribly mismanaged their signature foreign initiative, leaving behind a nation sinking into corruption and violence.

Anyone who has been in Haiti recently will not be surprised by the general strike, the angry highway roadblocks, and the police brutality against the demonstrators. The mainstream US press is getting to the story late, and mistakenly portraying the upheaval as an outburst of rage after a “disputed” election. This is a serious misrepresentation. What is actually happening is that the unpopular outgoing president, Michel Martelly, has spent months trying to impose his successor, using violence and vote fraud, and the Haitian people are resisting in the only way they can. Haitians bitterly accuse America of whitewashing Martelly’s various crimes, and some even charge that the stolen election amounts to a coup d’état.

Washington spent $30 million to help pay for these elections, but the embassy in Port-au-Prince refuses to question the just-released vote results, which show Martelly’s candidate, Jovenel Moise, finishing in first place and moving on to the second and final round on December 27. Widespread fraud was documented on election day itself by four Haitian human rights groups, including the respected National Human Rights Defense Network, and further evidence is that although the government claimed that Moise got 511,992 votes, practically no one came out on the streets to celebrate. The other seven leading candidates all refuse to accept the results and are demanding an inquiry.

These days, Bill and Hillary Clinton are nowhere to be seen in Haiti, but it was not always so. The couple claimed to have a special attraction to the country after spending their honeymoon there, and even before the 2010 earthquake, Bill Clinton had already been appointed the United Nations special envoy. After the earthquake struck, his role increased, and he was a regular visitor, making speeches, cutting ribbons, and palling around with President Martelly, including attending his inauguration. Clinton became so powerful that people even started calling him “le Governeur.” The writer and veteran Haiti-watcher Jonathan Katz also points out that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton traveled to Haiti four times, the same number of visits she made to Russia or Afghanistan.

A few months after the earthquake, both Clintons were stars at a big Donors’ Conference Towards a New Future for Haiti, held at the UN, at which $2.5 billion was pledged—intended, in Bill Clinton’s words, to “build back better.” Some $1.15 billion was supposed to come from the United States.



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Hillary, as Secretary of State, included a warning in her remarks at the conference. “If the effort to rebuild is slow or inefficient,” she said, “if it is marked by conflict, lack of coordination, or lack of transparency, then the challenges that have plagued Haiti for years could erupt with regional and global consequences.”


Hillary Clinton’s warning turned out to be an accurate forecast of how the Haiti reconstruction efforts have failed dismally and been plagued by corruption and mismanagement. Here is just one example: The US Agency for International Development said it would build 15,000 new houses. Excellent detective work by, among others, Jake Johnston of the Center for Economic and Policy Research shows how USAID completely bungled the job. After nearly six years, only 900 houses have actually been built, and many of them were so shoddily constructed that USAID had to spend more to fix them.

Visitors to Port-au-Prince today will see almost no evidence of the billions that were supposed to be spent on “building back better.” Most of the rubble is gone, but the national hospital is still decrepit, and even main streets have potholes and piles of garbage. There is also failure of the less visible sort, as my friend of 20 years, Milfort Bruno, explained to me recently. His house was damaged severely in the earthquake. “Martelly’s government said it was going to send around experts to tell us if it was safe to rebuild in the same place,” he said. “No one ever came. Martelly promised he would also send engineers, to show us how to construct our houses safely. We never saw them.”

Supporters of a wide variety of political parties are demanding that the results of the October 25 first-round election be thrown out as fraudulent. (Daniel Morel)
Some people did make a lot of money off the recovery, including the US and other foreign businessmen and contractors who showed up in Port-au-Prince’s few high-end hotels after the disaster. Hillary Clinton’s brother, Tony Rodham, also got involved in a Haiti-related venture: In 2013 he joined the advisory board of VCS Mining, a Delaware-based company that has attempted to dig gold in Haiti. The venture is on hold (partly because of concerns about potential environmental damage), and no wrongdoing has been shown, but Rodham was probably not picked for the board based on his technical experience.

Of course, the Clintons are far from alone in being responsible for the failure to rebuild Haiti. Foreign aid from Washington has degenerated into a privatized, no-bid process designed to enrich American subcontractors, and most of the money allocated never even leaves the United States. Haiti is more dominated than ever by a small upper class, practiced at diverting outside aid to themselves. (Some Haitian critics call this group MREs—Morally Repugnant Elites—a name inspired by the Meals Ready to Eat that were part of the US military emergency relief effort right after the earthquake.)

At some point, though, the Clintons should have recognized that Haiti’s reconstruction was failing and that President Martelly was growing steadily more corrupt and repressive. Bill Clinton could have used his explaining ability to point out publicly what went wrong, and Hillary Clinton could have taken advantage of her prominence as a presidential candidate to tell some important truths. Instead, the Clintons just skulked away from Haiti, and their silence today makes them complicit in the violent, undemocratic, and fraudulent regime they left behind. •
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