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ForumHaiti vous invite à un grand débat sur le" kidnapping "du président Aristide le 29 février 2004. Pour alimenter les réflexions sur les malheureux événements qui ont favorisé la déportation du président haïtien vers l’Afrique, les modérateurs, administrateurs et collaborateurs du forumhaiti vous présentent cette vidéo dans laquelle le président Aristide a livré un témoignage éloquent sur les événements du 29 février 2004 .

Nous vous invitons à partager avec nous vos réflexions, vos perceptions sur le mouvement anti-démocratique qui a déstabilisé le pays de septembre 2003 jusqu’au 29 février 2004 et qui a contribué au renversement du président Aristide en février 2004.

ForumHaiti ouvre ce débat à vous concitoyennes et concitoyens afin de partager avec vous les grandes questions de relations politiques inter haïtiennes qui affectent notre société depuis le 17 octobre 1806.

Merci de votre fructueuse participation!

Tout ce qui a mene au 29 fevrier 2004 avait ete mis en place par les principaux protagonistes sous la presidence de Preval (1996-2001).

La seule et unique difference a ete la presence d'un gouvernement republicain a Washington alors que certains avaitent place tout leur espoir en un gouvernement democrate...

L'autre difference reside en l'incapacite de l'haitien d'analyser le passe afin d'en tirer des lecons a appliquer dans le present.

Supporters of ousted Haitian President Jean-Bertrand Aristide want the exiled leader to return to the struggling nation.


Posted on Sat, Mar. 01, 2008

By JACQUELINE CHARLES

jcharles@MiamiHerald.com

Four years to the day since the ouster of Haitian President Jean-Bertrand Aristide, 5,000 of his supporters marched Friday down the streets of Port-au-Prince to demand his return from exile to a country still politically fragile and economically struggling.

Chanting Aristide's name and waving signs, marchers took their protest to the gates of the U.S. Embassy in Port-au-Prince and Haiti's National Palace to remind President René Préval -- a one-time supporter of the former priest -- that Aristide's Fanmi Lavalas party helped elect him two years ago.
''I believe he heard us,'' said marcher Jean-Michel Porfil, 32. ``The people . . . are hungry. They don't have work, but they protested because their president isn't here. We are asking for him to be returned.''
Aristide's supporters each year have marked his abrupt departure with his wife and a small contingent of bodyguards at his side amid an armed uprising, just after dawn Feb. 29, 2004.
Haiti under Préval continues to struggle toward normalcy even though the political tensions that led to Aristide's ouster have eased. Institutions are still weak, poverty is still high, the cost of living is rising, unemployment is rampant and social divisions run deep.
''The sense of an explosion is not there, probably because the elite has accepted Préval,'' said Robert Fatton, a Haiti expert and political science professor at the University of Virginia who recently visited his Caribbean homeland.
As recently as Thursday night, lawmakers demonstrated what experts said was political maturity by declining to censure Prime Minister Jacques-Edouard Alexis. Despite their stated dissatisfaction with the economy and the slow pace of the government, the lawmakers decided now is not the time to risk instability.
And that, say Haiti watchers, is to Préval's credit.
''We have great cause for optimism [because] over the past two years in large part, miraculously, Préval has been somehow able to govern from the middle,'' said Robert McGuire, director of the Haiti Program at Trinity College in Washington.
Préval ''seems to be focusing on holding the middle, keeping the peace and by so doing not exacerbating the polarization that almost destroyed Haiti from the beginning of the century to 2006,'' he added.
But that doesn't mean Haiti can't ''descend into hell'' once more, both McGuire and Fatton said, noting that such an explosion would create the kind of opening that Aristide's supporters need to win his comeback.
''The only way Aristide can succeed in making a comeback is if Préval fails,'' McGuire said. ``It's in the interest of everybody in Haiti that Préval succeeds because no one wants to descend into hell again.''
Foreign diplomats whose countries have given Haiti billions of dollars over the past four years insist that Aristide is never coming back, although U.S. and Haitian investigations of allegations of corruption during his government have gone nowhere.
Préval has been coy on the subject of Aristide's return, saying that the constitution allows the entry of any citizen, but ``he must decide whether he wants to return, if there are legal and other actions.''
The Rev. Gérard Jean-Juste, a Miami Haitian community activist and longtime Aristide supporter, said Préval needs to take an active role in the former president's return.
''Préval should be in touch with [South African President Thabo Mbeki] and both work it out together to allow a safe return of Dr. Aristide. That's what we are looking for,'' said Jean-Juste, who led a rally for Aristide's return Friday night in Little Haiti.
Porfil, the Aristide supporter in Haiti, says the people know that ''he can't be president again.'' But that doesn't stop them from wanting him home.
''He did a lot of beautiful things in Haiti; he built hospitals, schools,'' Porfil said.
Aristide said almost the same thing earlier this year in a speech from South Africa, where he has kept a low profile while teaching at a university and recently receiving a Phd in African languages.
In his videotaped speech, broadcast on the Internet, he never referred to Préval by name but said that despite voting for hope -- Préval's party is named Hope -- Haitians have found only hopelessness.
His supporters have been careful with their criticism of Préval, underlining the delicate challenge facing Fanmi Lavalas as it fights to rebuild and gain a political foothold with a fragmented base and a relatively popular president.
In the aftermath of Aristide's ouster, ''our members were killed, and jailed. It's still a precarious situation,'' physician Maryse Narcisse, a former member of Aristide's government who served as his spokesman after he fled into exile, said recently in Port-au-Prince.
''We want to remind people that what happened to our president was a coup d'etat against the Haitian people, their vote and Fanmi Lavalas,'' she added.
Narcisse herself made headlines last year when she was the victim of a kidnapping.
She paid a ransom for her freedom, but her supporters believe it was politically motivated.
''It's a very fragile situation. Anything is still possible,'' Fatton said of Haiti, four years later. ``Things have changed, but not enough to say the worst is over.''

2/29 Global Day of Action for Haiti- 56 actions in 47 cities on 4 continents

Thursday Feb 28th, 2008 12:33 PM


<BLOCKQUOTE class=summary>if you go to any of these events, please post a report! and remind organizers to post to this site or their events will be small.
See you at 7:30 a.m., Friday, Feb. 29th, 2008 - at the Marine Recruiting Station in Berkeley!</BLOCKQUOTE>
Subject: Current list of 56 actions in 47 cities on 4 continents in solidarity with Haiti - as part of 2-29-08 global day of action for Haiti
Date: 27 February 2008 19:31:54 GMT-08:00


Growing list of cities participating in actions on or around Feb. 29, 2008, in solidarity with the Haitian people, on the 4th anniversary of the Feb. 29, 2004 coup d'etat in Haiti. Updated as of Feb. 27, 2008 - 5 p.m. Pacific time

Here is a list 47 cities - so far - that have informed us that they are participating in the Feb. 29th Day of Solidarity with the Haitian People. A total of 56 actions are planned in the 47 cities on 4 continents, in support of the Haitian people's demand for self-determination, democracy and justice.

New York City (2 activities)
Durban, South Africa - the Abahlali Shack Dwellers Movement
Montreal, Quebec
Berkeley, California (2 activities)
Los Angeles, California
Georgetown, Guyana
Notre Dame, Indiana (2 activities)
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
San Rafael, California
London, England (2 activities)


San Jose, California - Downtown San Jose, corner of Market Street & San Carlos Street, south end of Cesar Chavez Plaza, 5:00pm - 6:00pm. For more info, contact Donna Wallach - dbwall[at]earthlink[dot]net, or call (h) 408-293-4774 (cell) 408-569-6608


Roanoke, Virginia
Dublin, Ireland
Sault Sainte Marie, Ontario, Canada
Atlanta, Georgia
Richmond, California
Minneapolis/St Paul, Minn. (2 events in the Twin Cities)
Huddleston, Virginia
Kigali, Rwanda
Fremont, California
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada (3 activities)
Rochester, New York
Oakland, California
Vancouver, BC, Canada (2 activities)
Boston, Mass.
Detroit, Michigan
San Diego, California
Auckland Park, Johannesburg, South Africa
Washington, DC
Ottawa, Canada
Pittsburgh, Penna.
Miami, Florida
Calgary, Alberta
Brooklyn, New York
San Francisco, California
Prince George, BC, Canada
Macon, Georgia
Jacksonville, Florida
New Orleans, Louisiana
Santa Cruz, California
North Minneapolis, Minn.
Enterprise, Oregon
Sonoma, California (2 activities)
Many cities and towns in Haiti (4 confirmed so far)


Shine a light on the role of U.S. Marines in Haiti!


Ø 4 years after the Feb. 29, 2004 US/French coup in Haiti…
Ø 4 years after US Marines seized Haiti’s capital and installed a US-appointed coup regime…


* Haiti is still under foreign military occupation, marked by rapes and wanton killings of the poor.

* Since the coup Haiti faces growing hunger, unemployment and a spiraling cost of living.

* Haiti’s jails are still filled with political prisoners and the poor – while coup plotters & paramilitary death squads enjoy impunity.


Join the Haiti Action Committee at the
Marine Recruiting Station
64 Shattuck Square, Berkeley
(1/2 block south of University Avenue; 1/2 block north of Berkeley BART)
Friday, February 29, 2008
for a morning demonstration beginning at
7:30 AM


Join us February 29th, on the 3rd International Day in Solidarity with the Haitian People: coordinated protests on 4 continents on the 4th anniversary of the ongoing US/UN invasion, coup & occupation against democracy in Haiti.
Sponsored by Haiti Action Committee. http://www.haitisolidarity.net Information: 510 847 8657




Dear Sisters and Brothers, Friends of Haiti:
The United Nations forces in Haiti (MINUSTAH) and Haiti’s tiny elite – backed to the hilt by the US, France and Canada – continue their repression of the poor majority, targeting especially supporters of the Lavalas grassroots democracy movement. Although a new President Rene Preval was elected in 2006, most functionaries from the US-installed coup regime of 2004-06 remain in office today. And the reins of power remain effectively in the hands of the US Embassy and other foreign occupation forces.

Let us not forget that 200 years before the 2004 coup, Haitians rose up and overthrew both slavery and colonial rule. The Haitian Revolution was an earth-shattering development in the struggle for the emancipation of labor all over the world, and remains our shining example.

Now, when the enemies of freedom and sovereignty are attempting to re-colonize and re-enslave Haiti, we need to act in solidarity with our Haitian brothers and sisters, in the spirit of their resistance.

See you at 7:30 a.m., Friday, Feb. 29th, 2008 - at the Marine Recruiting Station in Berkeley!

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[size=12]Épi yo tan'n sé apré kidnaping nan yo rantré potoprins.

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Ebyen, san dout se Aristide li menm ki t ap al manche M.50 lan pou defann pouvwa diktatoryal li ya. Kòm li pa t la se sak fè rebèl yo rantre, patati patata ... tchiiiiiiiiiip !

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[size=12]Ban'n kriminel gnbiste sayo pa kon'n sa pou yo di anko pou yo jistifyé trètrise ak lachté yo. Dé kisà nou vlé konvink moun là, après 4 ans dé pouvwa GNBiste kisà nou bay? S Blan an vinn fè eleksyon pou nou min'm épi min'm là anko nap fé 0,1%. Donk Aristid té pèdi pouvwa popilè ya é daprè bel foto Guy Philippe ak Jodel Chamblain sà sé yo kité popilé pa vré, Konbien yo té fè nan éleksyon ki té oganisé pou yo wa?

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Mwen pa di pèsònn popilè, mwen di ke pèp-la pa t'ap sipòte rejim kowonpi jis nan mwèl lavalas la.

Antouka pèp la te bouke ak nou, ak sipò pèp-la chèf lavalas la te ka toujou nan palè-a.

Fwa sa a, pèp-la pa pran nan djòl dous, Lè sa te bon nan men nou, yo pa tap manje pwa blan ak nou. Yo paka ap kk pwa ak nou lò sa pa bon (lol).[/size]

ki sa depatman edikatyon natyonal la itil.Nan peyi ki pi devlope ya te genyen HEW ki se Health ,Education and Welfare.Poukisa nou paka konbine edukatyon natonale ak lot depatman konsa na redwi kou gouvenman an?POUKi sa nou pa ka aboli konstitutyon 1987 ki vinn kreye youn pos Premye Minis ki vinn fe gouvenman koute pli chè.

mwen pat janm aprouve ke Aristide peye tout kalite kob saa pou pwotektyon prive li ,mwen te di mwen kont sa: ke youn Presidan popilè konsa se blan ki blije ap asire sekirite li, wmen te di ke mwen konprann ki rezon ki fè li fè sa se a koz de trètriz ayisyen.men sa pa vle di ke mwen te aprouve ke youn Presidan ap depanse tout kob saa pou sekirite li nan youn peyi pov tankou ayiti.Tet mwen dwat mwen pa moun ki ap pran kout ponya pou m al nan bal non.Mwen se moun ki kroke chapo m kote menm ka rive.Ni mwen pa nan fè makak pou m imite sa lot moun fè san ke mwen pa teni kont de moyen mwen.Mwen pa janm gen foli sa ke men pa ka genyen.

Ah ces violateurs de la Constitution refusent de dire au docteur le mal dont ils souffrent.Pourtant vous reconnaissiez le droit du Professeur Manigat de retourner chez lui.

Quelle est donc cette chimerie qui vous effarouche tant;le droit des haitiens de manifester dans l'ordre et le respect des lois;le droit d'un haiten de vivre dans son pays?Accepteriez-vous qu'on vous enlève ce droit?

regardez donc la dichotomie entre la première phrase de votre dernier texte et le Numero 1 de l'ideologie de Colocolo.Cessez d'editer mes textes à mon insu.(lol)Ce peuple qui lutte depuis 4 siecles pour son emancipation et vous osez ecrire qu'il refuse d'avancer?

Vous, de "l'elite" qui voulez le maintenir dans l'esclavage moderne n'appreciez pas sa reconnaissance envers son bienfaiteur.Voila la chimerie

Je suis aussi pou la création de cette gendamerie quand nos moyens nous le permettront,mais pas pour le retour des FADH qui n'avaient jamais joué ce role.