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MessageSujet: Le pasteur d'Obama lui met dans l'embarras   Jeu 13 Mar 2008 - 11:38

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MessageSujet: Re: Le pasteur d'Obama lui met dans l'embarras   Dim 16 Mar 2008 - 14:25

To whom it may concern:

This site is under the eye of big brother in the country which professes to have liberty of the press.I was writing an article to criticize the press for making a big deal of Pastor Wright's sermons where I was asking should Senator Obama be blamed for that and suddlenly my electricity was turned off temporarily.This not the first time that happened

I was asking should Senator Obama repudiate Pastor Wright?I asked the question ;Should Georges Bush repudiate Collin Powell who in his autobiography criticized the country that he was defending in Vietnam while the KKK was bombing a church where 4 little girls died in the 60's

I wrote one should not condone pastor Wright's observations in their integrality,but one should understand them in the context of his generation which witnessed the inequities of prejudices.
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MessageSujet: Re: Le pasteur d'Obama lui met dans l'embarras   Dim 16 Mar 2008 - 15:54

(lol) do not be paranoid my old friend; the government can do that, but they would have to be in your basement to cut the fuse selectively prior to your writing. they can cut electricity from a distance, but they would have to mess up the entire grid.
so, those two times were plain coincidences!!!!
or you can think that i am a spy myself trying to pacify you (lol)!
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MessageSujet: Re: Le pasteur d'Obama lui met dans l'embarras   Dim 16 Mar 2008 - 16:45

Thank you for teaching me internal wiring of electricity in my house.But have you ever learned the principles of remote controling of electricity?Who told you how my house, which is new by the way, was wired?who told you that a remote control device was nost installed in my circuit panel distribution box?How come the circuit breaker of only one part of the house was activated to turn off the power of my computer?Is it irrationale for me to think that way at a time when Prosecutors of the states were fired by the Attorney General of the United states for their political affiliation?

my article was written not to condone Pastor Wright's sermons where he said that we should say:" damn America "instead of "God Bless America" , but rather to understand it in regard to his generation who witnessed the struggles of the civil right movement ;the assassination of Dr Martin Luther King, of John F.Kennedy , Bobby kennedy etc.
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MessageSujet: Re: Le pasteur d'Obama lui met dans l'embarras   Dim 16 Mar 2008 - 17:38

do not take it too seriously my friend. i am just playing with you. i know that you worked as an advanced electrician, and you know your stuff; but it would not make sense for your to allow another company to be able to turn on or turn off your electricity at will via remote control; for it would not enhance your sense of security if you were to do just that.
i know that companies who do no have night residency have that kind of remote swich in order to contain fires, but it would not make sense for private citizens to do that because it would give big brother more power.
look, you are not saying anything for the us government to selectively direct an agent to cut you off.
come on!!!
apparently, you have taken it seriously; i myself thought that you were joking around but it looks like that you have taken it very seriously.
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MessageSujet: Re: Le pasteur d'Obama lui met dans l'embarras   Dim 16 Mar 2008 - 18:04

Indeed I am taking it seriously.You damn right I will not allow a company to turn on or turn off my electricity whenever they want ,but can I prevent the CiA to install a remote control switch in my house or a microphone in my ceilling to register what I am saying?Is it improbable for them to install a remote device in my computer to cause a surge of current in the circuit to break it?

The weather is beautiful in the part of florida where I live.How come nobody else in the neighborhood has experienced this shortage?You said it just coincidental that at the time I am writing this piece suddenly the circuit that feeds my computer broke.no other part of the house was out of power,and I did not go to the garage to reactivate the circuit breaker?Not even 1 minute has elapsed and the current was restored to the circuit.

Einstein, can you explain this phenomenon to me ?(lol)Do not say that I dis you .I am just kidding.By the way,thank you for teaching me that the power Company can disconnect my house electronically.I am telling you: it is never too late to learn a new trick.I taught electricity was distributed either overhead or underground ;if you want to disconnect a house you have to go directly to the distribution box on the block if such house is feed underground or if it is fed overhead you have to disconnect it in the pole or where the wires are connected to the secondary wires of the distribution system of the street where that house is located.You can isolate a grid from the substation or it can be isolated automatically by a circuit breaker to isolate that grid .Mon chè ou se youn jenn nonm ki konnen tout bon.(lol) No disrespect ,Sir.(lol)
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MessageSujet: Re: Le pasteur d'Obama lui met dans l'embarras   Mar 18 Mar 2008 - 14:23

What do you think of Seanator Obama's speech this morning in Philadelphia?

Listening to Senator Obama's speech reminds me of John Fritzgerald Kennedy's book where he remind us to have the courage of our covictions in politic.I would think less of Senator Obama if he had repudiated his Pastor.He showed me that he is a man of character who,regardless of the consequences, stands for what he believes.

I had doubt about Senator Obama's ability to unite the electorate;I did not think that a black man can unite the country and transcend the racism that still exists in the United States of America.Whatever will happen in November I think Senator Obama's candidacy is not a futile exercice as I previously stated.He might not succeed in November,but it is worthwhile for him and for progressive people in general to try.

Seldom we have listened to politician who tells it like it is.It would have been more advantagous for Senator Obama to disown his relation with Pastor Wright or to deny that he has witnessed his remarks,but as a man of character he prefers to embrace Pastor Wright as a big brother who is still bleeding for what he and his race have endured.I applaud him for his courage.


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MessageSujet: Re: Le pasteur d'Obama lui met dans l'embarras   Mar 18 Mar 2008 - 14:55

That was a good shot from Obama. This issue help him on an another hand. It helps him dispel the rumours that he is a secret muslim.

I know this can hurt him, but I enjoyed seeing my candidate vetted. And whether you like it or not most of the evangelists often give those same kind of sermons, this come to light because he was an Obama's former pastor.
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MessageSujet: Re: Le pasteur d'Obama lui met dans l'embarras   Ven 21 Mar 2008 - 13:33

Recommended HLLN Link:
The Haitian Blogger
http://www.thehaitianblogger.blogspot.com/


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The White Preacher Double Standard ; Why America Can't Get Beyond Race
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/80253/

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The White Preacher Double Standard: How Hagee, Parsley and the Rest Get
Away
with Everything By Cenk Uygur, Huffington Post

Posted on March 19, 2008,
http://www.alternet.org/bloggers/http://www.huffingtonpost.com//80253/

Rudy Giuliani's priest has been accused in grand jury proceedings of
molesting
several children and covering up the molestation of others. Giuliani
would not
disavow him on the campaign trail and still works with him. (
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=3753385&page=1 )

Mitt Romney was part of a church that did not view black Americans as
equals
and actively discriminated against them.
(http://www.slate.com/id/2178568/ ) He
stayed with that church all the way into his early thirties, until they
were
finally forced to change their policies to come into compliance with
civil
rights legislation. Romney never disavowed his church back then or now.
He said
he was proud of the faith of his fathers.

Jerry Falwell said America had 9/11 coming because we tolerated gays,
feminists
and liberals. It was our fault. Our chickens had come home to roost, if
you
will. (http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Jerry_Falwell ) John McCain proudly
received his support and even spoke at his university's commencement.

Reverend John Hagee has called the Catholic Church the "Great Whore."
(http://www.catholicleague.org/release.php?id=1393 ) He has said that
the
Anti-Christ will rise out of the European Union (of course, the
Anti-Christ
will also be Jewish). (http://www.alternet.org/story/39748/?page=1 ;
http://www.raptureready.com/faq/faq72.html ) He has said all Muslims
are
trained to kill and will be part of the devil's army when Armageddon
comes
(which he hopes is soon).
(http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/02/28/hagee/index.html;
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mOsYSwNrlBo ) John McCain continues to say
he is
proud of Reverend Hagee's endorsement.

Reverend Rod Parsley believes America was founded to destroy Islam. (
http://www.motherjones.com/washington_dispatch/2008/03/john-mccain-rod-parsley-spiritual-guide.html
). Since this is such an outlandish claim, I have to add for the
record, that
he is not kidding. Reverend Parsley says Islam is an "anti-Christ
religion"
brought down from a "demon spirit."
(http://www.motherjones.com/washington_dispatch/2008/03/john-mccain-rod-parsley-spiritual-guide.html
).

Of course, we are in a war against all Muslims, including presumably
Muslim-Americans. Buts since Parsley believes this is a Christian
nation and
that it should be run as a theocracy, he is not very concerned what
Muslim-Americans think.

John McCain says Reverend Rod Parsley is his "spiritual guide."

What separates all of these outrageous preachers from Barack Obama's?
You
guessed it. They're white and Reverend Jeremiah Wright is not. If it's
not
racism that's causing the disparity in media treatment of these
preachers, then
what is it?

I'm willing to listen to other possible explanations. And I am inclined
to
believe that the people these preachers go after are more important
than the
race of the preacher. It's one thing to go after gays, liberals and
Muslims -
that seems to be perfectly acceptable in America - it's another to
accuse white
folks of not living up to their ideals.

I think there is another factor at play as well. The media is deathly
afraid of
calling out preachers of any stripe for insane propaganda from the
pulpits for
fear that they will be labeled as anti-Christian. But criticism of Rev.
Wright
falls into their comfort zone. It's easy to blame him for being
anti-American
because he criticizes American foreign and domestic policy.

If Rev. Wright had preached about discriminating against gay Americans
or
Muslims, there probably would not have been any outcry at all. That
falls into
the category of "respect their hateful opinions because they cloak
themselves
in the church."

But one thing is indisputable - the enormous disparity in how the media
has
covered these white preachers as opposed to Rev. Wright. Have you ever
even
heard of Rod Parsley? As you can see from what I listed above, all of
these
white preachers have said and done the most outlandish and offensive
things you
can imagine - and hardly a peep.

If the disparity in coverage isn't racist, then what is it?

Reverend John Hagee has called the Catholic Church the "Great Whore."
He has
said that the Anti-Christ will rise out of the European Union (of
course, the
Anti-Christ will also be Jewish). He has said all Muslims are trained
to kill
and will be part of the devil's army when Armageddon comes (which he
hopes is
soon). John McCain continues to say he is proud of Reverend Hagee's
endorsement.

Reverend Rod Parsley believes America was founded to destroy Islam.
Since this
is such an outlandish claim, I have to add for the record, that he is
not
kidding. Reverend Parsley says Islam is an "anti-Christ religion"
brought down
from a "demon spirit." Of course, we are in a war against all Muslims,
including presumably Muslim-Americans. Buts since Parsley believes this
is a
Christian nation and that it should be run as a theocracy, he is not
very
concerned what Muslim-Americans think.

John McCain says Reverend Rod Parsley is his "spiritual guide."

What separates all of these outrageous preachers from Barack Obama's?
You
guessed it. They're white and Reverend Jeremiah Wright is not. If it's
not
racism that's causing the disparity in media treatment of these
preachers, then
what is it?

I'm willing to listen to other possible explanations. And I am inclined
to
believe that the people these preachers go after are more important
than the
race of the preacher. It's one thing to go after gays, liberals and
Muslims -
that seems to be perfectly acceptable in America - it's another to
accuse white
folks of not living up to their ideals.

I think there is another factor at play as well. The media is deathly
afraid of
calling out preachers of any stripe for insane propaganda from the
pulpits for
fear that they will be labeled as anti-Christian. But criticism of Rev.
Wright
falls into their comfort zone. It's easy to blame him for being
anti-American
because he criticizes American foreign and domestic policy.

If Rev. Wright had preached about discriminating against gay Americans
or
Muslims, there probably would not have been any outcry at all. That
falls into
the category of "respect their hateful opinions because they cloak
themselves
in the church."

But one thing is indisputable - the enormous disparity in how the media
has
covered these white preachers as opposed to Rev. Wright. Have you ever
even
heard of Rod Parsley? As you can see from what I listed above, all of
these
white preachers have said and done the most outlandish and offensive
things you
can imagine - and hardly a peep.

If the disparity in coverage isn't racist, then what is it?

Cenk Uygur is co-host of The Young Turks, the first liberal radio show
to air
nationwide.

© 2008 Huffington Post All rights reserved.

View this story online at:
http://www.alternet.org/bloggers/http://www.huffingtonpost.com//80253/
and,
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/80253/
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MessageSujet: Re: Le pasteur d'Obama lui met dans l'embarras   Ven 21 Mar 2008 - 15:13

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I can not thank you enough for exposing this hypocrisy of the press.Thank you for enlightening us to the prejudices of the hypocrits.
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MessageSujet: Re: Le pasteur d'Obama lui met dans l'embarras   Ven 21 Mar 2008 - 20:20

What do you think of Bill Richardson's preference of Obama over Hillary Clinton?I respect Governor Richardson's integrity.
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MessageSujet: Re: Le pasteur d'Obama lui met dans l'embarras   Ven 21 Mar 2008 - 21:37

It's a big blow for the Clinton.He was a very important person in this administration.
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