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 Gadkot meriken retounen 52 boatpipol ayisyen, yo mete 5 endyen kom degi.

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MessageSujet: Gadkot meriken retounen 52 boatpipol ayisyen, yo mete 5 endyen kom degi.   Dim 12 Oct 2008 - 14:17

CG Repatriates 57 Back to Haiti

October 10, 2008
U.S. Coast Guard




MIAMI - The crew of the Coast Guard Cutter Decisive repatriated 52 Haitian migrants and five Indian nationals to Cap-Haitien, Haiti.



Decisive crewmembers located an overloaded 30-foot sail freighter approximately 30 miles south of Great Inagua, Bahamas.



The crew launched two small boats and distributed life jackets before safely embarking everyone aboard the overloaded vessel without incident.



Once aboard Coast Guard cutters, migrants are provided with food, water, shelter and necessary medical attention.



The Decisive is a 210-foot medium endurance cutter homeported in Pascagoula, Miss.


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MessageSujet: Re: Gadkot meriken retounen 52 boatpipol ayisyen, yo mete 5 endyen kom degi.   Dim 12 Oct 2008 - 14:22

Pandan anpil moun tout peyi ak tout enstitisyon ap mande meriken pou yo sispann voye ayisyen tounen dapre TPS, ki fout mele yo ak nèg pov ki ap peri?

Nou deja konnen zafè atitid yo kont ayisyen, men kisa 5 endyen yo af fè lan bagay saa?

Eske moun Okap pral adopte yo?
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MessageSujet: Re: Gadkot meriken retounen 52 boatpipol ayisyen, yo mete 5 endyen kom degi.   Dim 12 Oct 2008 - 14:49

Sasaye a écrit:
Pandan anpil moun tout peyi ak tout enstitisyon ap mande meriken pou yo sispann voye ayisyen tounen dapre TPS, ki fout mele yo ak nèg pov ki ap peri?

Nou deja konnen zafè atitid yo kont ayisyen, men kisa 5 endyen yo af fè lan bagay saa?

Eske moun Okap pral adopte yo?

Si nou te pran ti nèg Raboto Gonayiv, papa Dok ak Zakari te lese Okap poukwa pa 5 endyen sayo. Sa nou manje yo va manje.Nou sivlize, gen bon kè, genyen amou pwochen nou menm si bagay yo durrr.

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MessageSujet: Re: Gadkot meriken retounen 52 boatpipol ayisyen, yo mete 5 endyen kom degi.   Dim 12 Oct 2008 - 21:29

Genyen youn moun ki repwoche tout nwa ki ap defann ou ki renmen Eta Zuni paske li di se pa peyi yo.Mwen te genyern entantyon ekri youn teks sou kestyon peyi e natyonalisme serten moun.men atik saa komsi pran devanm paske li montre ke lide natyonalism saa li pa vle di menm bagay pou tout moun.mwen ka pa objektif nan sa map di ya paske mwen te soufri anpil an ayiti e mwen pa ka mande youn moun ki tap byen mennen poul panse tankou mwen.men map mande moun sa yo ki ap chache sove kite peyi ya eske yo ka panse tankou moun ki ap byen mennen an ayiti yo; eske si yo di moun sayo si pou yo vinn o Zeta Zuni se pou yo natiralise yo eske yo pap fè l?Eske youn moun ka blame yo pou sa?Se komsi moun lan Vle di moun tankou Collin Powell, martin Luther King, Condelezza Rice Malcom X pat dwe lite pou amelyore relatyon rasyal o Zeta Zuni ,men reyaLITE KE MOUN LAN PA VLE GADE SE KE NANPREN NWA KI AP TOUNNEN AN AFRIK E NAN 2 MILYON AYISYEN KI NAN PEYI ETRANJE PA GENYEN MENM 2% KI RETOUNNEN MENM APRE DEPA dUVALIER.

Moun ki pa konn ayiti byen ka di pa genyen diskriminatyon an ayiti ,men youn moun ka pran ekzanp sa ki pase nan rwanda et an yougoslavie pou konprann se pa sel kestyon ras ki kreye desinyon ,rayisman an dedan tout peyi genyen diskriminatyon etnik, diskriminatyon statu sosyal etc.poukisa nwa ap soti tout kote vinn o Zeta zuni menm lè yap riske vi yo?yo mande pou Eta Zuni pa retounnen moun ki sou teritwa ameriken an ayiti a koz de eta peyi ya.Men tou fok youn moun reyalise si Etatzuni pa ka kite lan mè ya lib se 95% ayisyen ak 75% dominiken ki ap kite lil la.Eske youn peyi ki an youn kriz ekonomik tankou Eta Zuni ka resevwa tout moun sa yo pou le moman.Pa genyen anpil peyi ki ap traverse youn kriz konsa ki ta va ap ede lot peyi tankou ayiti.Youn moun met kritike m jan w vle e mwen pa janm di ke Eta Zuni parfè non men mwen rekonet bonte et charite pep ameriken yan.map kondane gouvènman ki fè move zak men mwen pap janm rayi peyi ya. se pa sel ayisyen ki ap pran kanntè, mexiken ap mouri nan desè pou yo rantre o Zeta zuni ilegalman ,poukisa?Se peyi saa ki fè anpil moun pa genyen kor kras ankor ,pa iyoran ,pa soufri ak ver ankor ;youn moun pa ka blame mwen ak anpil lot moun ki ap chache youn vi miyor.si youn moun pa genyen beswen vini la se chans pa w ,men ou pa ka kont moun ki ap chache la vi pa yo.Ou pa tande sa youn jenn gason te di lè yo te retounen li an ayit?li te di map tounnen pran lan mè kan menm o lye mwen mouri grangou an ayiti. Men reyalite ya mon frè.

Moun ki grangou ,malad, ki ap soufri pa genyen patri.se pousa mwen renmen reken paske si yo kite lom vinn viv nan lan mè yo tap divise l an ti teritwa pou di sa se lan mè pam ou pa ka vinn la.;reken entelijan li konn mechanste lom depi li rankontre yo nan lan mè li fout manje yo.Bet nan lan mè ki touye nonm an australi ya ki te ale nan lan mè pou fè bet yo mechanste se youn bet ki entelijan li fout perse kè li anvan li pran l poul tounen esklav ou byen poul manje li..Gade sa li fè ak tig yo li mete yo nan esklavaj poul fè lajan e byen bet saa li menm di ou pap vinn metem nan zoo ni manje m map fout touye w.li fout perse kè mechan an.Eske bet sa pa genyen entelijans?Genyen moun se sa yo ta renmen popu se yo selman ki ap byen mennen pou yo te ka meprise ayisyen parey yo.yo rayi tou moun ki soti anba pat yo.yo di w se tyoul blan, vendu men yo pa di sa yo genyen reyelman se youn paket nouvo kolon ki rayi esklav ki chache liberte.ki ap chache yon vi miyor.Si se an ayiti nan tan pa yo nou tap ekri konsa sou enternet la yo tap fout mete nou nan kacho fort dimanch lontan.e nanpren moun ki ka dim manti.Kote Lovenski Pierre Antoine?
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MessageSujet: Advocates urge U.S. to give Haitians temporary protected status   Lun 13 Oct 2008 - 20:51

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Advocates urge U.S. to give undocumented Haitians temporary protected status

Temporary Protected Status sought for undocumented immigrants

By Georgia East and Luis F. Perez
South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 13, 2008

Since he was detained by immigration officials in August, four storms have torn through Jean Delva's homeland. They wiped out roads and bridges, flooded fields and obliterated a meager food supply. More than 850,000 people are displaced; 50,000 homes are damaged or destroyed. Hundreds died, and United Nations officials say many more might if they don't get help.

Sending him back would be cruel, immigrant advocates say. They, and 31 congressmen, are urging the United States to grant undocumented Haitian immigrants like Delva what's known as Temporary Protected Status, allowing them to stay and work here legally but temporarily. On Oct. 3, pushed by local activists, Haitian President René Préval made his first public request for TPS since the storms.

The move, they hope, will spur the United States to grant the status. It's not unheard of.

Two weeks ago, the Bush Administration announced it would extend temporary protected status to an estimated 300,000 Honduran, Nicaraguan and Salvadoran nationals who have been allowed to stay for years after natural disasters struck their countries. It was granted to Hondurans and Nicaraguans after Hurricane Mitch hit in 1998 and to Salvadorans after a series of earthquakes in 2001.

While immigrant advocates argue it's unfair to deny Haiti the same benefit afforded those countries, opponents say the fact that the immigrants from those other places are still here is proof the system doesn't work.

"If Bush had ended the TPS for the Central American countries, then we would be in favor of TPS for Haitians," said Roy Beck, president of NumbersUSA, which advocates reduced immigration. "The reason we don't is that there's no 'T' in TPS."

David Abraham, a University of Miami law professor and immigration expert, said the country's mood toward immigration was much different 10 years ago. He doesn't think Preval's public statement will have an effect.

"This situation in Haiti has been so horrendous for so long that I don't see how additional misery would change the situation," he said.

Local activists estimate there are about 15,000 Haitians here with orders to leave.

"I just don't know how dire conditions have to become before the U.S. government is willing to grant Haiti this long-merited assistance," said Congressman Alcee Hastings, D- Miramar.

The advocates argue deporting immigrants with no criminal record delivers Haitians a double blow: It cuts off income for their families here and abroad.

"When you deport someone to that country, all you're doing is adding another mouth to feed and cutting off support to Haiti," said Steven Forester, senior policy advocate at Haitian Women of Miami. "If you want Haiti to get stable and get on its feet, you stop deportations so that we keep the money flowing there."

Immigration and Customs Enforcement temporarily stopped deporting Haitians last month. But that's not the same as TPS. The pause could end at any moment, and it doesn't allow undocumented immigrants from Haiti to work legally.

Also, ICE agents continue to detain Haitians, even those like Boynton Beach resident Delva — his American wife is five months pregnant. Married just three months when he was detained, he was picked up by ICE at his job before he filed his paperwork seeking residency.

"I respect the law. I love my family," Delva said from a detention center in Deerfield Beach. "Now I have a child on the way, and I'd like to be able to help my family."

For now, though, Delva waits in limbo, detained but not deported, with no resolution in sight.

"Everyone says America is a good country that believes in preserving family," his wife, Patricia Dinvil, said, rubbing her swollen belly. "How can they tear our family apart like this?"

Georgia East can be reached at geast@SunSentinel.com or 954-356-4629.

Storm images

See photos of storm-ravaged Haiti at SunSentinel.com/haiti



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MessageSujet: Re: Gadkot meriken retounen 52 boatpipol ayisyen, yo mete 5 endyen kom degi.   Lun 13 Oct 2008 - 21:00

Two weeks ago, the Bush Administration announced it would extend temporary protected status to an estimated 300,000 Honduran, Nicaraguan and Salvadoran nationals who have been allowed to stay for years after natural disasters struck their countries. It was granted to Hondurans and Nicaraguans after Hurricane Mitch hit in 1998 and to Salvadorans after a series of earthquakes in 2001.



"Everyone says America is a good country that believes in preserving family," his wife, Patricia Dinvil, said, rubbing her swollen belly. "How can they tear our family apart like this?"
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