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MessageSujet: Group declares Guinea coup after dictator's death   Mar 23 Déc 2008 - 10:26

CONAKRY, Guinea – A military-led group seized control of the airwaves in Guinea and declared a coup Tuesday after the death of the mineral-rich West African country's longtime dictator,
but the prime minister insisted he remained in charge.

An Associated Press reporter saw three tanks and dozens of armed soldiers heading toward the prime minister's office inside the country's presidential compound.

The troops' allegiance was not immediately apparent. But they appeared less than an hour after Prime Minister Ahmed Tidiane Souare announced in a state broadcast that he was inside his office and that his government had not been dissolved.
Earlier Tuesday, a group calling itself the National Council for Democracy began announcing its takeover on state-run radio and TV, just hours after longtime dictator Lansana Conte's death was made public.

"The government is dissolved. The institutions of the republic are dissolved. ... From this moment on, the council is taking charge of the destiny of the Guinean people," said the coup leader, who identified himself as Capt. Moussa Camara.

Conte, who was believed to be in his 70s although the government never disclosed his birth date, was only Guinea's second president since it gained independence from France a half-century ago.

He was one of the last members of a dwindling group of so-called "African Big Men" who came to power by the gun and resisted the democratic tide sweeping the continent. Conte's death on Monday leaves just a handful left, including Gabon's Omar Bongo, who took power in 1967 and Robert Mugabe, who has been Zimbabwe's only leader since its 1980 independence.

While Guinea has managed to avoid the catastrophic wars that have ravaged its West African neighbors, Jean-Herve Jezequel warned of a "real risk of violence in Conakry" regardless of who is officially in charge.

[color=blue]]"We were all waiting for the situation to degenerate when Conte died, because the question of succession was never decided,"
said Jezequel, a West Africa scholar in France who works for the MSF Foundation, linked to the aid group Doctors Without Borders.

"Much will depend on whether another strongman emerges or not in the coming days," said Jezequel, who predicted that any new leadership, even military-based, will likely hold presidential elections in part to appease the country's labor unions.

The European Union called on political and military leaders Tuesday to "respect constitutional measures to ensure a peaceful transition" via elections.

Guinea boasts half the world's known reserves of bauxite, the ore used to produce aluminum, and it has deposits of gold, diamonds and iron ore.

Analysts say the nation, at the confluence of several West African rivers, could generate enough electricity to power the region.


But Guinea's economy has rapidly deteriorated and its 10 million people have remained among the poorest in the world. A food exporter at independence, Guinea turned to importing food as it became more impoverished, crippled by corruption, inflation and high unemployment.


Conte's unpopularity was reflected in revolts by disgruntled soldiers and at least two attempts to oust him.
He took power in a 1984 military coup after the death of his predecessor.

As a post-Cold War democracy wave swept the continent, he formed a political party and won elections in 1993. He was re-elected in 1998 and 2003, but all the elections were viewed as fraudulent and rejected by Guinea's beleaguered opposition.

During the last election, rumors of his failing health were already circulating. He was reportedly so ill that he did not even get out of the car to cast his ballot.
That winter, he went on TV to put a stop to the rumors of his death.

"Everybody dies," he told the nation. "Even the Prophet died. I will die when Allah wants me to."

A similar wave of rumors began gathering force two weeks ago, when Conte failed to make his usual televised appearance on the occasion of a major Muslim holiday.
The prime minister and others hurried to make appearances in his place, but people were on edge and numerous businesses shuttered their doors in anticipation of unrest.

Last week, the editor of a local paper was arrested after publishing a picture of the frail leader struggling to stand up. The newspaper was ordered to print a photograph of Conte, showing him in good health.

"Se yon medsinn l'huile melanjè avek arsenik pou bay diktatè sa yo pou yo kitè yon pouvwa!!!" MThadoto Jomota, Ginea Gazette Newspaper.
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MessageSujet: Re: Group declares Guinea coup after dictator's death   Mar 23 Déc 2008 - 10:47

Leçons à apprendre d’un coup d’état.

"The prime minister insisted he remained in charge"".

Wi! Se premye bagay pou premye minist la fet pou'l di:

"Ke se li ki an charj!!

Si premye minist la pa deklare ke se li ki an charj, lamee avek oppozan vautour e charonya yo pral di:

"The government is dissolved. The institutions of the republic are dissolved. ...


Men yon lot gwo problem anko nan milye peyi tiermond yo: Trè souvan, Prezidan yo pa jamb deklare siksese yo, paske yo pavle ke siksesyon tro matire!!
Pafwa yon chef deta kap di ke yon moun ap vinn siksesse li, men piblik la e moun sa kap mal interprete sa e li kap kouri vinn pran pouvwa avan lè.

We were all waiting for the situation to degenerate when Conte died, because the question of succession was never decided,"

Si pa gen sikssesse e prezidan vinn mouri ou byen kite pouvwa avan le, sa ap vinn kite yon vacum politik nan peyi a kote ke chyen ak chat charlatan, ki soti tout kote memm Boca Raton, Floride [nan ka Ayiti] tou souye tou bouke, vinn deklare tet li Premye minist. E pep la toujou sou le kou du sezisman, zombifye e gaga apsepte sa.

Siksesyon e kontinuite se bagay ki inpotan pou avni yon peyi!!

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MessageSujet: Re: Group declares Guinea coup after dictator's death   Mar 23 Déc 2008 - 11:50

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Kou sou Kou!! Dwat Kou Goch, Sivil, Kou Milite!!

Tout Kou sa yo fe peyi a ap fe bak e viv nan fe Nwa kankou bet Koukou!!

Sikssessyon!! De ki sikssessyon ke wou ap pale la!!!!

Pa gen kestyon de sikssesyon!! Se sa ke prezidan deklare!!



"Se yon medsinn l'huile melanjè avek arsenik pou bay diktatè sa yo pou yo kitè yon pouvwa!!!" MThadoto Jomota, Ginea Gazette Newspaper.

Moun ap mande chanjman!! Plis gen chanjman, plis se memm bagay yo!!
Pou kisa?????

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MessageSujet: Re: Group declares Guinea coup after dictator's death   Mar 23 Déc 2008 - 14:21

Se bagay sa yo wi.Zafè koudeta sa yo.
Gade Ghana ,ki depi ranvèsman Kwame Krumah a se te koudeta ,sou koudeta.
Kounye an depi kèk tan yo deside pou yo jwe jwèt demokratik lan,e peyi sa a ap fè anpil pwogrè.
M ap di l ankò,fè tankou Lend ,ki toujou respekte dwa vòt popilasyon an.
Ann Ayiti ,gen nèg ki ap di ke anlfabèt paka chwazi dirijan.
An END eleksyon dire 2 semèn pou ke tout moun ki vle vote ,vote, e se yon peyi ki gen toujou de santèn de milyon moun ki analfabèt.
se yon peyi tou ,ki depi endepandans li pa janm gen koudeta
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MessageSujet: Re: Group declares Guinea coup after dictator's death   Mar 23 Déc 2008 - 14:47

Se sa ekzanp saa montre ankor se nan ansyen koloni franse yo ke bagay saa repete plis.Mwen pa konn poukisa.eske se yon sinkyem kolonn ki rete o servis kolon yo.
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MessageSujet: Re: Group declares Guinea coup after dictator's death   Mar 23 Déc 2008 - 16:25

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Joel di : Se bagay sa yo wi.Zafè koudeta sa yo.
Gade Ghana ,ki depi ranvèsman Kwame Krumah a se te koudeta ,sou koudeta.
Kounye an depi kèk tan yo deside pou yo jwe jwèt demokratik lan,e peyi sa a ap fè anpil pwogrè.
M ap di l ankò,fè tankou l’Inde ,ki toujou respekte dwa vòt popilasyon an.
se yon peyi tou ,ki depi endepandans li pa janm gen koudeta

Rod di : Se sa ekzanp saa montre ankor se nan ansyen koloni franse yo ke bagay saa repete plis.

Mwen pa konn poukisa.
eske se yon sinkyem kolonn ki rete o servis kolon yo.


Observation Joel ak Rod yo gen yon setin impotans ladan.

Nou tout se neg ke nou an Afrik ou byen nan karayb la,
Sepandan observation Joel ak Rod la di ke kolon yo pa memm.

Joel Rod ak lot moun remake ke gen plis koudeta kifet nan koloni fransez e Belj yo ke nan peyi Britanik yo.

Si nou tout se men neg kolonizè, men kolon yo diferan

donk yon pati nan kestion e repons koudeta yo kap gen sous genetik li nan yon system de kolonization ke nou heritè.
Mwen viv nan lekol avek neg breton e mwen remake ke system de panse politik e sosyal yo tout afe diferan de neg franco.

Nou memm neg franco, nou fe chanjman nou pa la fos e avek violans.
Nou pa fe differans ant batay Bastille 1789 e batay Vertiere, 1803.
Nous avons appris de nos maitres, gagner par la force, avec fracas et violence!

Neg breton yo fos e violans se denye resous yo.
Yap essaye tout lot bagay pasifikman.

Huuummmmmmm!!

Si nou fe brain nou travay nou kap jwen zo nan kalalou e sa kap pemet nou fe fas ak koudeta yo yon lot fason.

Paske konbat koudeta avek koudeta sa pap rezoud pwoblem nou.

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MessageSujet: Re: Group declares Guinea coup after dictator's death   Mar 23 Déc 2008 - 16:30

gen yon lòt bagay tou,se lan ansyen koloni franse ak bèlj yo ,ki gen plis moun ki analfèbèt tou wi.

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MessageSujet: Re: Group declares Guinea coup after dictator's death   Mar 23 Déc 2008 - 17:10

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Joel di: gen yon lòt bagay tou,se lan ansyen koloni franse ak bèlj yo ,ki gen plis moun ki analfèbèt tou wi.

Poukisa?

Mwen toujou gen pwoblem avek “koz ou efe”.

Gen moun ki di ke:

Se band analfabet sa yo kap kôzè koudeta sou koudeta nan peyi a konsa!!

Opinyon lot moun yo:

Se band koudeta sou koudeta sa yo ki fe ke peyi a gen anpil analfabet sa yo e sou develope konsa.

Fe chwa wou Joel e dapre konviksyon wou.

Kelkeswa chwa wou fe a Joel, sa pap rezoud pwoblem koudeta sa yo.

Petet wou se neg ki potè solution pa la vyolan, ….m’se neg pasifik, se negosye ke’m negosye pou'm soti nan yon movè sitiasyon.

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MessageSujet: Re: Group declares Guinea coup after dictator's death   Mer 24 Déc 2008 - 8:44

Revelatyon,

Ou wè m jan m pale de vyolans?epitou di m depi kèk tan si vyolans sa a w ap pale de li an ,se si pa yon sèl sektè ki aplike l?
Kilès ki fè koudeta ann Ayiti .Se yon kesyon retorik paske nou konn repons lan.

Zafè analfabetism lan gen yon baz kiltirèl ladan l.Moun ki al etidye an Frans yo pa kwè lan edikasyon pèp e se lan kilti franse yo yo pran l.
Pèp sakson yo ,tankou Angletè ak Lalmay te toujou kwè lan edikasyon pèp.
Sa a te gen yon senp rezon se te lan mouvman Pwotestan an ,paske yo te kwè ke tout moun te gen dwa ka li la Bib;san w pa t bezwen yon entèmedyè.
Se youn lan rezon ke preske tout moun te toujou konn li lan peyi sa yo.
An Frans menm klèje katolik lan te toujou kwè se yo menm ki pou entèprete "la pawòl lan"
Kididonk moun pa t bezwen konn li.
Menm lan 19yèm syèk lan ,La Frans se te yon peyi analfabèt .Se lan ane 1880s ,kote yon moun kou JULES FERRY vin enstitye edikasyon inivèsèl ke preske tout moun vin konn li an Frans ,byen ke te gen rezistans .
Te menm gen tantativ koudeta ak Jeneral BOULANGER paske wayalis yo,klèje katolik lan ,patizan Napoleyon yo ,te kont sa.

Se rezon sa a ki fè anvan 1915 ,se te sèlman 6 % moun ki te konn li ann Ayiti,apre 1946 se sèlman mwens ke 15 % epitou gen yon seri gwo gagann ki di yo se entelektyèl ,yo pa t wè anyen dwòl lan sa.

Konpare sa ak Etazini ;anvan gè sivil lan se sèlman 20% popilsayon nwa ki te konn li ak ekri ,epitou lan fen ane 1870s yo ,pousantaj lan te gentan 70%.

gen yen lòt rezon ankò pou eksplike fenomèn ke se lan peyi ke franse ak bèlj yo te kolonize ke pousantaj analfabèt yo pi wo,men nou gen dwa tounen sou sa
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MessageSujet: Re: Group declares Guinea coup after dictator's death   Mer 31 Déc 2008 - 13:11

The re-colonization of Africa
by Max A Joseph Jr

“We would rather have poverty in freedom than riches in slavery” said Guinea’s independence leader, Ahmed Sékou Touré, to then French president Charles de Gaulle in 1958. The French, taken aback by what they considered an effrontery by a “sale nègre” (dirty Negro), as Africans were commonly called in France, grudgingly granted Guinea its independence on October 2nd of that year. In typical French’s vindictiveness, France dismantled Guinea’s telephone system before granting the country its independence, thus helping make Sékou Touré words prophetic. Half a century later, Guinea, endowed with abundant mineral wealth, remains one of the least developed and poorest countries in the world.

In a document recently declassified by the British government pertaining to a cabinet meeting in which Ghana’s impending independence was discussed, Harold McMillan, the late British prime minister (1957-63), declared:”these people (Africans) are incompetent, divisive and cruel”. McMillan was referring the to Ghanaians’ unpreparedness to assume control of their own destiny because of tribal and ethnic animosities. Apparently, the late Harold McMillan forgot his own country’s history when Englishmen, Scots, Welch and Celts slaughtered each other for centuries before forming a nation called Great Britain.

Five decades after Ghana became the first African country to acquire its independence (1957) from Britain, a re-colonization of Africa is under way in anticipation a geopolitical realignment in the next decade of two. To that end, Westerners and Asians have been positioning themselves in preparation for the battle for Africa’s abundant natural resources. With their privileged position in the U.N Security Council Westerners are mandating the occupation of many countries, while the Asians, the Chinese in particularly, are using their financial clout to preempt the monopolization of the Continent’s natural resources by western nations.

Not surprisingly, the number of African countries under U.N occupation is growing: Chad, Somalia, Ivory Coast, Liberia, and The Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC). Zimbabwe could be the next victim. Nigeria, Africa’s paper tiger superpower, could disintegrate under the weight of ethnic, sectarian, religious and regional rivalries. More worrisome is the fate of South Africa the Continent’s economic giant, now uncertain, because the African National Congress, the glue that holds the nation, is splitting between opponents and supporters of former president Thabo Mbeki. As the unfortunate events in Mauritania and Guinea Bissau indicated, military or attempted coups will likely dominate the Continent’s political life in the next decade, opening the door to the kind of unholy alliances that benefited the Mobutus, the Bokassas, the Eyademas and other petty tyrants during the 1960’s, 70’s and 80’s.

In addition, the re-colonization is being facilitated by African leaders who put personal consideration before the interests of the countries they lead. With the most notorious being Robert Mugabe (1980-?) who refuses to relinquish Zimbabwe’s presidency under any circumstances. Like the late Patrice Lumumba, Kwame Nkrumah and Sékou Touré, Robert Mugabe misunderstood the geopolitical realities in place and ran afoul of the western powers. In trying to correct an historical wrong by unapologetically expropriating the white farmers, who prospered under Ian Smith’s immoral regime (1966-80), Robert Mugabe inadvertently sacrificed the welfare of his countrymen. Accordingly Zimbabwe (formerly Rhodesia), once the breadbasket of Southern Africa, is floundering under a western-imposed embargo. In politics, neither good intent nor doing what is right guarantees success. For Zimbabwe’s sake, Robert Mugabe should step down before the prospect of a U.N occupation become irreversible.

Although Guinea’s predicament could also be attributed to the despotic and obscurantist rules of Sékou Touré (1958-84) and Lansana Conté (1984-?), the French played an institutional part in it. Because of a pathological instinct to control or punish its former colonies, France’s continued meddling is causing Guinea’s dilemma to be replicated in all French-speaking African countries. As a result, French-speaking African countries have yet to develop the structures necessary for economic and political development. Even The Ivory Coast, once a model of stability, disintegrated under a French-instigated rebellion. A U.N occupation force (UNOCIL) has been trying to hold the ethnically divided country together since 2002.

The Democratic Republic of Congo (formerly Zaire), a country the size of Western Europe, is being brought to its knees by little Rwanda despite the presence of the United Nations’ largest peacekeeping force (MONUC). While this is happening, Asian and Western multinational companies are busy gobbling up that country’s natural resources through sweetheart deals with the weak and ineffective central government. In Madagascar, a former French colony, Daewoo, one of South Korea’s largest conglomerates, recently signed a 99-year lease with the government that calls for 3.2 millions of acres of that country’s best arable land to produce corn exclusively for the South Korean market. Ironically, the country is suffering from chronic food shortages and many schoolchildren are receiving daily rations from the World Food Program. A British company, Sun Bio-fuels, concluded similar agreements with Ethiopia, Mozambique and Tanzania for the production of bio-fuel crops destined for the European market.

That is the reality in today’s Africa where Western and Asian interests are operating in a vacuum and sometimes fomenting rebellions to further their aims. Like Haiti where the malevolence of a small but powerful elite culminated in the outright occupation of the country, most of Africa could revert to colonial rule. While the former colonial powers’ duplicitous role is certainly a factor, Africa’s hopelessness and bleak future rest disproportionably on the shoulders of its unscrupulous leaders. Unless Africans adopt a siege mentality, which would permit them to react accordingly, their fate is sealed.

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MessageSujet: Re: Group declares Guinea coup after dictator's death   Mer 31 Déc 2008 - 18:31

Good analysis by Max Joseph.

And the famous "Responsibility to Protect" doctrine will be used to justify this process of re-colonization of Africa.

However, as they always do, the colonizer-vòlò tè will make mistakes as they become overconfident and Africans will rise from the shanty towns and they will overthrow the thieves time and again.

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MessageSujet: Re: Group declares Guinea coup after dictator's death   Jeu 1 Jan 2009 - 10:16

"Like Haiti where the malevolence of a small but powerful elite culminated in the outright occupation of the country"

Ou konnen m sezi pou wè de opinyon konsa lan Haitian Times ,paske jounal sa a te gen yon tandans idantifye l ak sektè politik ki kòz bagay sa a rive.
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