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 Detrakte yo di ke: Aristide Ap Mennen la Bel Vie an Afrik di Sud

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MessageSujet: Detrakte yo di ke: Aristide Ap Mennen la Bel Vie an Afrik di Sud   Dim 5 Juil 2009 - 15:01



Ousted Haitian leader Jean Bertrand Aristide with South Africa's president on Wednesday,
after receiving an African languages doctorate from the University of South Africa.

Aristide's South Africa high life to continue

By Fiona Forde

A chauffeUr-driven white Mercedes pulls up at the entrance to Unisa's Samuel Pauw building, with a BMW in tow, from which security guards emerge to escort the former head of state the few metres to his fifth-floor office. One guard walks in front of him. The other follows a few steps behind.

An ante-room leading to his main office is guarded under lock and key, even when he is inside. A side room houses his security guards who keep watch whenever he is around.

Outside, the engine of his Mercedes purrs all day long, for fear he will have to make a quick escape. This is Jean-Bertrand Aristide, former president of Haiti, who controversially remains exiled in South Africa, his multimillion-rand lifestyle and protection package here bankrolled by taxpayers.

This man is a multi-millionaire
Thabo Mbeki's government afforded him, his wife and two daughters shelter here in 2004 when he was ousted from office in Port-au-Prince shortly after his second term began. Because he was a head of state, the South African government also agreed to "cover the costs of the stay of President Aristide, his family, staff and entourage in South Africa", according to Parliament's records in 2006. "The monthly costs of his accommodation, transport, office support staff and security are similar to the cost normally incurred for a South African cabinet minister," the official record reads.

Sue van der Merwe, the deputy minister for international relations, has confirmed the agreement is still in place, though she was unable to put a tally on the cost to the taxpayer to date, or confirm for how much longer the agreement would remain in place.

Yet it is said that Aristide was a wealthy man when he fled his impoverished country five years ago, though what became of his money is something that continues to elude the authorities.

When asked if he brought any money into South Africa, Van der Merwe said she did not know.

Allegations of corruption continue to haunt Aristide and investigations are ongoing. His critics suggest that his wealth is vast, so vast that he could well afford to foot his own bill here… and more.

Gerard Latortue, a former United Nations official who headed the interim government after Aristide fled, told The Sunday Independent that Aristide's wealth was undisputed in most circles. "And yes, of course, he could pay his way in South Africa. This man is a multi-millionaire."

However, according to Van der Merwe, "Mr Aristide would like to go back to Haiti" now, but she said the local authorities were concerned for his safety.

It is a view that was confirmed by Patrick Elie, Aristide's close friend and former defence minister.

"Yes, he would like to come back," Elie said from his Port-au- Prince home. "
But to do what exactly, I don't know.
This is something that cannot be improvised. It would be very, very delicate."

In response, Haiti's foreign minister, Alrich Nicolas, said that, "under the constitution, Aristide can come back", but he would not be drawn on the fate he might face if he did.

Aristide, biding his time at Unisa, is unlikely to test those uncertain waters.

Shortly after his arrival in 2004, Aristide, who was then 50, was offered a research position at the human sciences faculty, which he still holds to this day.

Some years later his wife, Mildred, took up a post at the Centre for African Renaissance Studies, which is also housed at Unisa, and which she still holds today. However, neither of them draws a salary, according to Unisa spokesperson Doreen Gough. "They only have the use of the offices they occupy to carry out their work," she said.

Aristide, a former priest and long-time scholar of theology, was awarded a doctorate by Unisa in 2006 for his comparative study of Haitian Creole and Zulu in a body of work called Umoya Wamagama, or The Spirit of the Word. He was lauded a brilliant mind for the parallels he had drawn between the two languages and the inferences he made about their linguistic histories. His graduation was a big celebration, and the photos of himself and Mbeki on the day paint a picture of contentment.

Some months later, however, his research was called into disrepute when three prominent African linguists said his work made a mockery of local languages. Spelling errors were also found in some of the Zulu words, which weakened the comparisons he was making.

Fellow academics cried foul when it was discovered that the professor who promoted the thesis was also the man who corrected it.

However, Aristide withstood the criticism and the doctorate remained intact.

"He really enjoys intellectual and academic life," claims Elie.

It is unclear, though, what contribution Aristide is making to Unisa's body of academic work.

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MessageSujet: Re: Detrakte yo di ke: Aristide Ap Mennen la Bel Vie an Afrik di Sud   Dim 5 Juil 2009 - 15:32

Atik sa paret nan yon Journal nan Afrik di Sid kap di ke jan Aristide ap mennen "la belle vie" sou tet gouvenman Afrik di Sud la.
Lajan ke gouvenman sa ap depanse pou prezidan Aristide depi 5 zannee sa , te kap sevi pou lot bagay pli itil pou peyi a.

Detrakte de dwat Afrik di Sud yo kontinye di ke Aristide se yon milti-millioner e li gen laja pou li sa okipe tet li ak tout fanmi li. Etranje sa yo ap ranmase zin nan men bouch moun ki pa kredib kankou:

Gerard LaTortue yon neg ki te sevi kom Premye Minist pandan period tranzisyon koudeta konfime ke Ansyen Prezidan Aristide chaje ak lajan vre.

M'pa finn kwe le yon volo ap joure yon lot volo. N'pakab di ke Aristide se volo paske nou pa we ak je nou e jiska prezan, aket ap fet tout kote depi 5 zannee yo poko jwen anyen pou poze la pat sou li.

Sepandan, nou kab di ke nou te we ak je kle kote ke Gerard LaTortue tap fe magouille poul te sove avek 2 automobil Lexus tou nef poul al roule nan Boca Raton Florida, e li te mande Ayiti anpil lajan kom Premye Minist "retrete".

Minist Affair Etranjer a, Nicolas di " Wi dapre konstitition peyi d'Ayiti, ansyen Prezidan gen dwa retounen nan peyi'l!! Men Minist Affer Etranjer la pa offri oken sevis de sekirite pou ansyen prezidan, ni garanti protektion fanmi'l.

Patrick Elie, yon moun ki expe an sekirite di ke "Si se nan kondisyon sa yo, pito ke Prezidan Aristide rete deho pou chien anraje pa manjje'l" paske sanble ke minist affer etranjer gouvenman Preval la pap mete yon system de sekirite pou Aristide ak fanmi li e system protokol d'akey la pa gen grander ke yo habitye bay yon chef d'eta.

Pou sipo internasyonal la, nou te met blye sa Si Manuel Zelaya gen problem poul tounnen nan peyi, ale vwa pou Aristide ki kite peyi'l depi 5 zannee.

Louyen des zye, louyen du coeur!! Se sa ke yo toujou di!!
Men se pa sa ke nou we nan pep ayisyen!!

Sanble ke yo pap jamb blye Prezidan Aristide!!

Antretan, Prezidan Aristide pap pedi tan roule bel machin, ni al jouye la roulette nan kazino. Lap edike tet li e pran diplom san rete.
Nou souyete'l la byen veni nan Georgetown U. menmm jan ke nou te fe nan le zannee 1991-1994 nan Washington, DC.
Li gen konpetans asse pou'l jwen yon djob swa Howard U., Catholique U. Universities of West Indies etc.. kote ke li santi ke li a lez..

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MessageSujet: Re: Detrakte yo di ke: Aristide Ap Mennen la Bel Vie an Afrik di Sud   Lun 6 Juil 2009 - 10:29

Zafè ke misye ta vòlò an ,se pou ti nèg pwouve sa .
Li difisil anpil pou nèg vòlò sèjousi e alsere lajan an lan bank swis .Li ka yon tijan difisil pou fè w remèt lajan an ,men y ap jwenn kote li sere.

Jis jounen jodi an menm 500 mil dola yo pa di ke mosye ta genyen sere tèl ou tèl kote ,ale wè pou lajan ke lènmi misye yo ta di l pran yo.

Kanta deklarasyon Patrick Elie ,pran yo al yon grennsèl,misye jodi an ,se yon pwòch Preval.
E klèman yon debakman Aristide lan Pòtoprens e "all bets are off"

Si misye ta lan Pòtoprens ,yo pa t ap ka touye l e yo pa ta ka mete l lan prizon.
Pa gen ase polis ak Minista pou ta ka al kontre ak pèp sa a
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MessageSujet: Re: Detrakte yo di ke: Aristide Ap Mennen la Bel Vie an Afrik di Sud   Mar 7 Juil 2009 - 9:16

Se media Afrik di Sud kap plenyen ke lajan ke gouvenman ap depanse pou soutni fanmi prezidan e antouraj li te kap sevi a yon bagay ki pli itil peyi a.

Se MBeki etan zanmi prezidan Aristide, ki tap bay tout sipo sa yo.
Konnyen la li pa o pouvwa, se Zuma ki la e pawol anpil sa yo rekomanse anko.

Pou konbyen tan ke Prezidan Aristide la anko nan Afrik di Sid??

Nou pa konnen, pa gen demach ni aktivite kap pale pouli sa retounnen nan peyi'l Ayiti ni okenn lot kote.

Gouvenman Ayisyen an pa motive pou fe Aristide tounnen. Okontre, plis li rete pi louyen plis jwet la pi bon pou politisyen yo.

Pou yo Aristide se yon "gate manje" e travay yo konnyen la se fe pep la blye prezidan sa.

Yon bagay kap tre difisil toutotan ke vie sosyal e ekonomik pep la pa amelyore e sanble ke amelyorasyon sa pa pou demen.

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MessageSujet: Re: Detrakte yo di ke: Aristide Ap Mennen la Bel Vie an Afrik di Sud   Mar 7 Juil 2009 - 10:40

Se sa menm,
Si pa egzanp LATORTUE te fè tout sa li di li ta oral fè yo ,lè li te rive lan ayewopò an ;bagay tankou kreye travay,konstwi wout ak lekòl;yo pa t ap pale de Aristide ankò.

Sa k pi rèd lan administrasyon Preval lan se Latortue bis.

Si pa gen amelyorasyon ,se pa popilè ankò Aristide ak popilè ;misye ap vini yon lejann tankou PERON jan ARTURO VALENZUELA te predi l lan.

Se VALENZUELA ki asistan sekretè Deta pou Amerik Latin aktyèlman an ranplasman ROGER NORIEGA.

Ann gade kouman misye ap aji pou l konbat "lejann" sa a ke misye te predi an 2004.
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