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 Men ki jan 2 kou deta fini ak Haiti/GREAT LEADERS OF THE CENTURY: ARISTIDE, MAN

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GREAT LEADERS OF THE CENTURY: ARISTIDE, MANDELA, GHANDI






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Pro ARISTIDE or Against ARISTIDE is not the question. Here in the
US, you see what people are doing to prevent Pres. Obama from providing
National Health Care. Imagine how stable and prosperous Haiti would
have been has Pres. Aristide not been overthrown twice by coup d'etat.
Each coup pushes Haiti 50 years back. Some people are living in Haiti
just to exploit the population. They just do business and sell their
product from generation to generation. They don't give a shit about
the well being of the Haitian people or the development of Haiti.

People
who are against Aristide will always be against him because Pres.
Aristide made Creole one of the two official languages of Haiti.
Aristide disbanded the Haitian army of thugs. Aristide enforced tax
collections from Haiti's business elite. Aristide invested tax
revenues in social programs such as health care, housing, education,
food distribution, infrastructure, etc. Aristide was the one who
brought the RESTAVEK issue to light. Aristide was too radical, too
progressive for Haiti's elite backward mentality.
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See Aristide/Lavalas' record below:
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Haiti's Achievements Under Aristide and Lavalas - Now Lost Since the U.S. Led Coup Ousting Him
By Stephen Lendman
The
long-suffering people of Haiti suffered a catastrophic blow in
February, 2004 when U.S. Marines kidnapped and deposed democratically
elected President Jean-Bertrand Aristide. The U.S., supported by
Canada and France, forced him into exile, forbade him from even
returning to the hemisphere, and reestablished a despotic interim
puppet government backed and enforced by so-called UN peacekeepers and
a brutal Haitian National Police. U.S. officials also threatened
Aristide with a second abduction followed by a trial and imprisonment
in the U.S. [on totally fraudulent charges of looting the Haitian
treasury, money laundering and taking payoffs from drug traffickers] if
he dared act or speak out forcefully against his ousting, forced exile
and the deplorable situation now in Haiti. These charges are currently
included in a baseless lawsuit the so-called Interim Government of
Haiti has filed against President Aristide even as they carry out a
reign of terror against the Haitian people. And as they do it,
conditions in the country continue to deteriorate as the occupying
forces clamp down on the people ahead of so-called Presidential and
legislative elections in January. With Haiti an occupied country, the
freedom and democracy they had is now lost and along with it a decade
of impressive social, economic and political gains they never had
before.


Why did the U.S. plan and carry out this act of savage
banditry against a leader beloved by his people and last reelected in
2000 with 92% of the vote? It was because he cared about the 80% or
more desperately poor and disadvantaged Haitians and was committed to
improving their lives. He was determined to serve their interests
rather than those of his dominant northern neighbor. That policy of
any nation, especially less developed ones, is always unacceptable to
the predatory neoliberal agenda of all U.S. administrations, the giant
transnational corporations whose interests they serve, and in Haiti,
their elite junior business partners. The Bush administration, in
league with these dominant business interests, intends to return this
nation of 8.5 million people, the poorest in the Americas, to its
pre-Aristide status of virtual serfdom. To do it they destroyed
Haiti's freedom and first ever democracy in its history and turned the
country into a killing field. And to justify what they did, they
conducted a shameless disinformation campaign, aided by a complicit and
corrupted corporate media, falsely claiming the Aristide government was
rife with corruption, trafficked drugs and violated human rights. They
also claimed Haiti was poorly governed by inherently inept people
[shameless racism]. They called it a failed state needing "reform" and
"humanitarian intervention."
For U.S. corporations and the Haitian business elite, Haiti has always
been a paradise for some of the cheapest labor on the planet. It's also
had a long-term endemic problem of men, women and children being
victims of human trafficking for sexual exploitation, debt bondage and
chattel labor. No one leader or party, no matter how well-intentioned,
could solve all these problems easily or quickly. But Aristide tried.
He wanted something better and for ten years accomplished impressive
achievements with little outside financial support and against great
odds. What Lavalas administrations accomplished is explained below.


SOCIAL GAINS UNDER LAVALAS

1. HEALTH CARE
The Aristide government renovated and
built health clinics, hospitals and dispensaries and added improved
medical services. It greatly increased the number of health care
workers including doctors. It spent a larger percentage of its budget
on health care than any previous Haitian government. It began a
meaningful AIDS prevention and treatment program praised by
international experts that reduced the HIV prevalence rate from 6.1% to
5% and the mother to child transmission rate from 30% to 9%. In a
cooperative effort with Cuba it sent hundreds of Haitian medical
students to that country to study to become doctors and were aided by
many more hundreds of Cuban health care workers coming to Haiti to work
in rural areas. It established a new medical school in Tabarre which
provided free medical education for hundreds of Haitian students and
planned to open a nursing school which the 2004 coup prevented.


Overall, health care availability and improvement made
impressive gains from its formerly dismal state. One measure was the
decline in infant mortality from 125 to 110 per 1000 and a drop in the
percentage of underweight births from 28% to 19%.


2. EDUCATION
Aristide and Fanmi Lavalas implemented a
Universal Schooling Program intending to include all Haitian children.
20% of Haiti's budget was devoted to education, and between 2001 - 2004
school enrollment rates rose from 68% to 72%. Under Lavalas
administrations, 195 new primary schools and 104 new public high
schools were built including in rural areas where no schools ever
before existed. To supplement further, Fanmi Lavalas provided
thousands of scholarships for children to attend private schools. It
subsidized schoolbooks and uniforms and expanded school lunch programs
to serve 700,000 hot meals a day to children who otherwise might have
had no meal.
The Aristide government also began a national literacy campaign,
printed 2 million literacy manuals, and trained thousands of students
as literacy workers. It opened 20,000 adult literacy centers many of
which combined a literacy center with a community kitchen to provide
low cost meals to communities in need. Between 2001 - 2003 this program
taught 100,000 people to read, and from 1996 - 2003 reduced the
illiteracy rate from 85% to 55%.
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3. JUSTICE AND HUMAN RIGHTS
Contrary to the demonization and
disinformation campaign against Aristide and Lavalas, human rights and
conflict resolution achieved significant gains under Lavalas
administrations. For the first time ever in Haiti, the rights of the
accused were respected. Those arrested had a formal hearing before a
judge usually within 2 days. Court proceedings were conducted in
Creole, the French derivative language all Haitians understand. Since
the 2004 coup, Lavalas supporters have been routinely murdered or
jailed for months without charge and without recourse to a fair trial
in court.
In 1995 the Lavalas government opened a school for magistrates. It
graduated 100 new judges and prosecutors between 1996 - 2003. Also,
courthouses and police stations were constructed and refurbished
throughout the country. Special courts for children were established,
and a special child protection unit was created within the Haitian
National Police. Laws were also passed prohibiting all forms of
corporal punishment against children. And in 2003 a new law was passed
repealing a labor code provision allowing child domestic service
[mostly unpaid and thus chattel labor], and additional legislation
passed prohibiting all trafficking in persons [a long-term endemic
abuse in Haiti affecting adults and children].

Aristide removed the main instrument of state repression and
dozens of previous coups by disbanding the hated Haitian military -
trained by the U.S. to be an instrument of civilian control and to use
brutal and abusive tactics to do it. This allowed the Haitian people an
unprecedented level of freedom of speech, assembly and personal safety
unknown before. He also created the National Commission for Truth and
Justice to investigate and report on the crimes committed during the
1991-1994 coup period. It made its recommendations for a measure of
justice in 1996. As a result, former soldiers and paramilitaries were
tried for their crimes and convicted when found guilty in fair trials.


POLITICAL GAINS UNDER LAVALAS
Until Aristide's election in
1990 Haiti had never before had a democratically elected President.
Aristide took office in 1991, but his administration was short-lived
because of a military coup that deposed him later in the year. But in
a deal struck with the Clinton administration Aristide was restored to
office in 1994 and served out the remainder of his term until 1996.
Then, prohibited from succeeding himself by Haitian law, Aristide ally
and Prime Minister in 1991, Rene Preval, was elected President with 88%
of the vote. Aristide was then reelected in November, 2000
[representing the Fanmi Lavalas party he formed in 1996] and served
until the February, 2004 coup deposing him.
Haiti's independent electoral commission oversaw the 1996 and 2000
presidential elections and 3 parliamentary and local elections. In
May, 2000, 29,500 candidates ran for 7,500 posts. Four million
Haitians registered for the election and 60% of them voted. Many women
and peasant leaders were elected to the House of Deputies, formed a
caucus and worked in Parliament to improve the lives of rural farmers.
For the first time ever Haitian women held the posts of Prime Minister,
Minister of Foreign Affairs, Minister of Finance and Chief of Police.
Also, in 1995 President Aristide established a cabinet level Ministry
of Women's Affairs to work for women's welfare. Its purpose was
multifold and included help for rape victims, improving literacy and
access to education, vital health services like pre-natal care and
inclusion of women to benefit from increases in the minimum wage.


During this period, the Haitian people enjoyed unprecedented
freedom to organize, speak out freely and assemble. The number of
radio stations in Port-au-Prince expanded to 44 and another 100 outside
the capitol. 16 TV stations were registered in the capitol and 35 more
nationwide. Also, the Haitian Constitution of 1987 was printed in
Creole and was widely distributed so Haitians were aware of their
rights which, for the first time, they really had.


For nearly 10 years the Haitian people had its only democracy
in its 500 year history and a government and leaders it chose who for
the first time cared about the welfare of ordinary Haitians and
established policies to improve their lives. All that was lost in
February, 2004. The Haitian people want it restored and resistance is
growing to try and achieve it.


ECONOMIC GAINS UNDER LAVALAS
Aristide raised the minimum
wage in 1995 and doubled it in 2003. He instituted an extensive land
reform program distributing 2.47 acres of land to each of 1500 peasant
families in the Artibonite River Valley. His government provided tools,
credit, technical assistance, fertilizers and heavy equipment to
farmers. Irrigation systems were repaired bringing water to 7000
farmers. As a result, rice yields [from Haiti's main staple crop] rose
from 2.7 tons per hectare to between 3 - 3.5 tons.
The government distributed tens of thousands of reintroduced Creole
pigs to Haitian farmers. This reversed a 1980 U.S. International
Development Agency [USAID] extermination policy done for fraudulent
reasons to prevent Haitian farmers from competing with pig farmers in
the U.S. This act cost Haitian farmers hundreds of millions of dollars
for which they received no compensation.


The Aristide administration campaigned aggressively to collect
unpaid tax and utility bills owed the government by wealthy and
powerful elite businessmen. Through this effort they generated new
revenues which were used for health care and education.


The government repaired and reopened the state owned sugar
mill in Dabonne that enabled Haiti to process its own sugar. Also,
30,000 fishermen received technical aid and training to build boats,
Haiti's lakes were planted with fish stocks and 50 new lakes were built.


The Lavalas administrations created hundreds of community
stores and restaurants which sold food at discount prices forcing the
wealthy elites' import monopolies to reduce their prices and make them
more affordable to poor Haitians. As a result, by 2003 malnutrition
dropped from 63% to 51%.


In 2002 and 2003 more than 1000 low cost housing units were
built, and low interest loans enabled ordinary working-class Haitians
to buy them.
In 1994 the Haitian government established a program
to help refugees who fled the country after the 1991 coup to return.
Programs included carpentry and sewing workshops and help in setting up
agricultural cooperatives. This initiative helped 100,000 refugees
return to their homes. The government also established an Office for
Civil Protection to support the Haitian Red Cross send out early
warnings of impending natural disasters and help those affected they
occurred.


All of these vital gains are now being reversed or adversely affected by the current interim U.S. installed puppet government.
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OTHER NOTABLE LAVALAS ACHIEVEMENTS
Despite misinformation to
the contrary, Lavalas administrations passed legislation to combat
drug trafficking and money laundering and worked cooperatively with the
U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency [DEA] to interdict drugs and deport drug
dealers wanted by U.S. authorities. In addition, the National
Committee Against Money Laundering, the National Committee to Combat
Drug Trafficking and Substance Abuse and a Financial Intelligence Unit
were created to enforce the laws passed.
The government also campaigned against public corruption by producing
public service announcements and instituting new procedures to combat
this abuse. Investigations of government officials and other employees
involved in improper or illegal activities were conducted, and those
found guilty were fired or prosecuted.
The Lavalas administrations made major investments in projects to help
the Haitian people. They included important improvements in
infrastructure, public transportation and agriculture. Thousands of
miles of drainage canals were constructed, repaired or dredged. In
Jacmel a new electric power plant was built, and the port and wharf
were renovated. In Port-au-Prince the international airport and
national stadium were renovated. Dozens of open-air markets [an
important Haitian institution] were built or renovated in cities around
the country.

CONDITIONS IN HAITI TODAY SINCE THE 2004 COUP
All the
achievements discussed above were impressive and remarkable considering
Haiti's long and tragic history as a brutally exploited state - first
by Spain and France and then by the U.S. However, since the 2004 coup
ousting President Aristide, all of them have been adversely affected or
reversed.
Most serious has been the destruction of real democracy and freedom
in Haiti and the tragic and horrific fallout from it. To serve the
interests of U.S. corporations and the elite Haitian rich, the Haitian
National Police [PNH] and so-called UN peacekeepers [MINUSTAH] have
unleashed a reign of terror against the Haitian people. President
Aristide's Fanmi Lavalas party has been destroyed and its officials
jailed, murdered or forced to flee to avoid either fate. In addition,
thousands of Lavalas supporters [the great majority of Haitians] and
community and labor activists have been killed, jailed, disappeared or
forced into hiding. Also, thousands of small businesses have been
burned and destroyed as have the homes of large numbers of the poor.
Jobs have been lost as well, including those of 4000 public sector
workers hired under President Aristide immediately eliminated after the
coup. As a result, the already very high level of unemployment has
risen further.


The brutal and hated former Haitian military has also been
reinstituted and now controls large areas of the country in an
environment of martial law. In the cities the PNH operates as a de
facto paramilitary force with a license to terrorize and kill with
impunity. Along with MINUSTAH [led by contingents from Brazil and
Chile, with a long history of repressing their home populations], the
PNH conducts frequent violent sweeps through poor communities and
neighborhoods, like Cite Soleil and Bel Air, attacking, arresting and
murdering community leaders, activists and other Lavalas supporters.


In rural areas, absentee landlords along with armed
paramilitaries have seized peasant farmer land given them as part of
the Land Reform projects by Lavalas administrations. The new interim
U.S. installed government headed by Prime Minister Gerard Latortue
[imported from Florida for the job] ended subsidies on fertilizer vital
to peasant rice farmers. As a result, the cost of fertilizer has more
than doubled, and the price of rice [Haiti's main staple crop] has
risen sharply, adversely affecting the poor majority [80% or more of
the population]. The interim government also cancelled school subsidies
for children and textbooks and stopped funding literacy programs. Many
poor families have thus been unable to keep their children in school.



U.S. agencies like the U.S. International Development Agency
[USAID] and the Washington based and nominally independent Haiti
Democracy Project are also deeply involved in making Haiti policy. The
latter is funded by the wealthy right-wing Haitian Boulos family, USAID
funded Radio Vision 2000 and other Haitian business interests. Its
board of directors includes former U.S. ambassadors to Haiti, others
close to the U.S. State Department and Haitian business leaders. This
organization [or independent think tank as they call themselves] along
with U.S. acting ambassador Timothy Carney are likely making day-to-day
policy decisions in Haiti while USAID is serving overall U.S. Haiti
policy objectives by attempting to "pacify" the country. It's doing it
through a sham and grossly inadequate fig leaf program of establishing
a few nongovernmental organization [NGO] type operations to provide
some essential services like "primary care" and "child survival
services," in place of Lavalas, while at the same time administering
with an iron fist. It started the first prison for children with others
for children and adults likely to follow. The overall aim is to turn
Haiti into a tranquil combined open air and enclosed "prison colony" to
create a favorable climate for business.


In addition, the predatory international lending agencies,
including the IMF and World Bank, are demanding their pound of flesh
that will further deepen Haiti's already overwhelming and crushing
poverty. In their business as usual fashion they have actively
implemented their exploitative and destructive structural adjustment
policies of forced privatizations and downsizings of state owned
industries and elimination of Lavalas instituted social programs in
return for financial aid, adding to Haiti's already onerous debt burden
[most of it "odious" debt].


The dominant U.S. corporate media and international community
overall have largely ignored the ongoing tragedy and horror in Haiti
since the coup. With no pun intended, Haiti today is literally a black
hole, out of sight and out of mind. The U.S. now calls the shots while
their complicit and subservient in-country proxies have turned back the
clock to its ugly despotic past of brutal repression and even more
extreme poverty, depravation and human suffering.


SCHEDULED PRESIDENTIAL AND LEGISLATIVE ELECTIONS
The
so-called Interim Government of Haiti [IGH] has scheduled a first round
of Presidential and legislative elections on January 8 with a runoff to
follow on February 15 and local elections finally on March 5. This is
the fourth reset of elections dates in the last 5 months. That's
because the planning and preparation handled by the Provisional
Electoral Commission [CEP] has been as flawed as the notion of a free
and democratic process in a nation now led by a U.S. appointed Prime
Minister in charge of a de facto military junta answerable to the Bush
administration. Although reportedly 3.5 million of the estimated 4.2
million eligible to vote have registered, the list of candidates
running excludes nearly all former Lavalas members. At present and
subject to change, 32 candidates are running for President including
Rene Preval who served a full term as Lavalas' democratically elected
President from 1996 - 2000. With Lavalas a destroyed party and out of
the political process, the fact that Preval has been allowed to run
means it's likely he's been co-opted and has deserted his former
democratic allies and accepted or joined with those now in power.


The most beloved and popular man still in Haiti, Father Gerard
Jean-Juste, will not be allowed to run and has been imprisoned without
charge to prevent his inclusion in the election. He currently has been
diagnosed with a serious medical condition requiring his release to be
able to be treated properly. Without a strong outcry and intervention
for him it's doubtful he'll get it, and that may jeopardize his life.
Most other candidates are those the Bush administration finds
"acceptable" including Dumarsais Simeus, a Haitian born Texas
millionaire, Guy Philippe [a former police chief and paramilitary thug
who led the armed coup against President Aristide in 2004] and Dany
Toussaint [a suspected murderer]. In addition, over 1100 candidates are
running for parliament.


Whenever these so-called elections are finally completed, the
result will not represent the will of the Haitian people. With Lavalas
[the overwhelming choice of the Haitian majority] mostly destroyed as a
political entity, the country under a repressive foreign military
occupation, and the entire electoral process deeply flawed and
effectively rigged, the hope for a democratic election is nil. In
addition, the likelihood of electoral fraud is very great, and the
Elections Canada Monitoring Mission there to detect it is unlikely to
do so because of Canada's support for the U.S. led coup and its
participation in MINUSTAH. There is also no way of knowing how many
Haitians will actually vote despite the reported number registered.
Those wanting to do so will be greatly hampered or unable to as the
number of polling stations have been reduced from 12,000 in 2000 to 600
now, mostly in urban areas. The majority poor who supported
Aristide/Lavalas are in the rural areas, hours away from where they
could vote. Distance and the threat of electoral violence may stop
them.


For now the dream of most Haitians remains unfulfilled and
unlikely to improve any time soon. Still, in spite of their
desperation and without outside support, the Haitian people remain
resolute and courageous. Since the coup, they have rallied repeatedly
and protested in the streets en masse for the release of political
prisoners, the return of President Aristide and a restoration of their
brief democracy. And despite the daily terror and violence against
them, they have continued their resistance bravely. Their story needs
to be told, and they deserve the full support of caring people
everywhere.
Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago and can be reached at lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net
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GREAT LEADERS OF THE CENTURY: ARISTIDE, MANDELA, GHANDI






Please click on the link below to start watching the two videos before you start reading:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Es_BPalN78



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXKWdM1ZJsU



Pro ARISTIDE or Against ARISTIDE is not the question. Here in the
US, you see what people are doing to prevent Pres. Obama from providing
National Health Care. Imagine how stable and prosperous Haiti would
have been has Pres. Aristide not been overthrown twice by coup d'etat.
Each coup pushes Haiti 50 years back. Some people are living in Haiti
just to exploit the population. They just do business and sell their
product from generation to generation. They don't give a shit about
the well being of the Haitian people or the development of Haiti.

People
who are against Aristide will always be against him because Pres.
Aristide made Creole one of the two official languages of Haiti.
Aristide disbanded the Haitian army of thugs. Aristide enforced tax
collections from Haiti's business elite. Aristide invested tax
revenues in social programs such as health care, housing, education,
food distribution, infrastructure, etc. Aristide was the one who
brought the RESTAVEK issue to light. Aristide was too radical, too
progressive for Haiti's elite backward mentality.

Ki koze? Ala yon ras odasye mesye. Ban m korije enpe:

Li fòse biznis tankou Jacques Ketant Co. peye l lajan an likid pou itilizasyon Ayeopò Wout Nèf Pou Kokayin Lokal (AWNPKL). Sa ki pa vle peye pase menm jan ak Hector

http://www.haiti-info.com/spip.php?article2063

Li envesti "tax" Ketant Corporation yo nan peye Rene Civil, Paul Raymond, Kolibri, Black Africa, Pip drunken Krak elatriye... Li eskpoze koze RESTAVEK la paske li menm pou konn pa l li genyen plizyè milye restavèk ki pote ti jwèt non "chimè". Aristide te twò "leader dit l'heure" e twò retwograd e sanginè menm pou Lame Kanibal.
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Tout pwopagann sa w tande a, yo pa fouti di ki kote ke yo bati oubyen antreprann tout bagay sa yo. Epi pou 8 milyon Ayisyen ta kanpe pandan 50 moun mache pran mwatye peyi a nan mwens ke 2 semèn? ...Ebyen pèp la pa konnen sa ke l vle vre? Banm yon katye popilè ke Lavalas te bati yon sant sante? Menm Ronald Kadav se nan sant sante Duvalier te bati nan Ri 9 ke li te konn al pran swen pou sida ki t ap fini ak li, Evens Ti kouto se Lopital Jeneral li te konn ale. Lavalas pa bati menm yon latrinn nan Site Solèy epi pou san koutya ap vinn ranse ak figi moun.

Si se 10.000 koure 2 pye ke li te distribiye mwen p ap di manti pig , men si se koure 4 pat, se pou yo di ki kote yo te fè distribisyon sa a. confused

51 chèn TV an 2004? 50 lak atifisyèl? 30.000 pechè pran fòmasyon? 100.000 refijye tounen lakay? Nan ki peyi mezanmi? Shocked

Ni yo pa wont, menm madanm Aristide pa genyen odas nan yon eta parèy pou lage yon pwopagann konsa. What a Face

Tchiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip!

Yon sèl bagay ki pou Lavalas vre ke moun pa ka konteste, se ke yo prodwi plis milyonè fasil an US nan dwòg ak kès Leta ke kèlkeswa gouvènman anteryè a.
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MessageSujet: Re: Men ki jan 2 kou deta fini ak Haiti/GREAT LEADERS OF THE CENTURY: ARISTIDE, MAN   Lun 10 Aoû 2009 - 6:14

En general,un grand leader ne salit pas le fond de ses pantalons quand sa vie est en danger .
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MessageSujet: Re: Men ki jan 2 kou deta fini ak Haiti/GREAT LEADERS OF THE CENTURY: ARISTIDE, MAN   Lun 10 Aoû 2009 - 6:21

En parlant de coup d'etat ,l'un des plus grands coups d'etat du siecle est celui realise contre Jean-Claude Duvalier par les forces rassemblees de l'opposition et des ambasssades etrangeres.Mais il etait un tyran,c'etait donc acceptable .

Pa dim ke se pep la ki jete li le neg monte avyon ak tout machinn de lik li pou li pwan lekzil .Ala de revolisyon bondye papa'm.
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MessageSujet: Re: Men ki jan 2 kou deta fini ak Haiti/GREAT LEADERS OF THE CENTURY: ARISTIDE, MAN   Lun 10 Aoû 2009 - 10:47

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En parlant de coup d'etat ,l'un des plus grands coups d'etat du siecle est celui realise contre Jean-Claude Duvalier par les forces rassemblees de l'opposition et des ambasssades etrangeres.Mais il etait un tyran,c'etait donc acceptable .

Pa dim ke se pep la ki jete li le neg monte avyon ak tout machinn de lik li pou li pwan lekzil .Ala de revolisyon bondye papa'm.

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MessageSujet: Re: Men ki jan 2 kou deta fini ak Haiti/GREAT LEADERS OF THE CENTURY: ARISTIDE, MAN   Lun 10 Aoû 2009 - 12:14

Je savais bien que la vérité allait sortir du puits à tout moment. Enfin les participants a ce forum ont découvert pourquoi j'ai le plus grand mépris de cette saleté lavalasse qui laisse le lit de son cours pour contaminer et gêner la vie de la cite assiégée par l'horreur et le crime.

Les membres bienheureux de ce culte de la chimerie qui ont pris naissance dans cette boue profonde et puante , le locus de tous les fatras rassembles en marécages, ne peuvent pas s'exprimer au delà de mots a cinq ou sept syllabes .S'ils font un effort pour sortir de cette camisole de force naturelle , ils commencent a craquer et l'odeur nauséabonde de leur présence commence a se manifester avec cette fierté suicidaire qu'on observe parmi les rats qui s’échappent de no égouts afin de fuir l'odeur répugnante de leurs congénères. M’est-il nécessaire de vous rappeler leur nom de guerre ou de plume ?

Nous les humains n'avons plus qu'un choix en cette circonstance si nous voulons combattre cette peste nee de l'accumulation des ordures mariées a d'autres matières- appelez les pipiriko si le cœur vous en dit- en état de décomposition : Les empoisonner ou les abattre d'une balle bien placée a la tète.
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MessageSujet: Re: Men ki jan 2 kou deta fini ak Haiti/GREAT LEADERS OF THE CENTURY: ARISTIDE, MAN   Lun 10 Aoû 2009 - 12:24

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Vous me permettez, j'ai du enlever votre dernière phrase. Il faudra donc utiliser l'approche psychosociale pour éduquer vos adversaires. Je sais que vous en êtes capable.

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MessageSujet: Re: Men ki jan 2 kou deta fini ak Haiti/GREAT LEADERS OF THE CENTURY: ARISTIDE, MAN   Lun 10 Aoû 2009 - 12:48

deza a écrit:
Je savais bien que la vérité allait sortir du puits à tout moment. Enfin les participants a ce forum ont découvert pourquoi j'ai le plus grand mépris de cette saleté lavalasse qui laisse le lit de son cours pour contaminer et gêner la vie de la cite assiégée par l'horreur et le crime.

Les membres bienheureux de ce culte de la chimerie qui ont pris naissance dans cette boue profonde et puante , le locus de tous les fatras rassembles en marécages, ne peuvent pas s'exprimer au delà de mots a cinq ou sept syllabes .S'ils font un effort pour sortir de cette camisole de force naturelle , ils commencent a craquer et l'odeur nauséabonde de leur présence commence a se manifester avec cette fierté suicidaire qu'on observe parmi les rats qui s’échappent de no égouts afin de fuir l'odeur répugnante de leurs congénères. M’est-il nécessaire de vous rappeler leur nom de guerre ou de plume ?

Nous les humains n'avons plus qu'un choix en cette circonstance si nous voulons combattre cette peste nee de l'accumulation des ordures mariées a d'autres matières- appelez les pipiriko si le cœur vous en dit- en état de décomposition : Les empoisonner ou les abattre d'une balle bien placée a la tète.
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MessageSujet: Re: Men ki jan 2 kou deta fini ak Haiti/GREAT LEADERS OF THE CENTURY: ARISTIDE, MAN   Lun 10 Aoû 2009 - 12:49

Marc,mon ami

Je suis tout a fait d'avis contraire .Je n'aime pas me battre contre un adversaire avec les mains liees au dos sous pretexte qu'il est un incapable ou merite d'etre protege de ses erreurs .Quand je descends dans l'arene j'y suis pour faire justice ,non pas pour enseigner les regles de la bienseance a des malapris tetus qui se croient vertueux .

Qu'il s'agisse de vous ou d'un autre moderateur,je vous vois incapable de censurer ceux que vous voulez proteger pour une raison ou une autre . C'est a moi de decider s'il faut en finir avec un adversaire immodere a la recheche des titres d'un vedettariat malsain .
C'est a moi de decider s'il faut s'en debarrasser humainement ou le traiter comme une bete sauvage et sanguinaire .Je suis ,de par mon temperament , un guerrier accompli sur le champ de bataille,pas une femmelette qui veut jouer au guerrier .

Si yon nonm pa kon fe manje epi kwizin lan tro cho pou li se pa antre la dan ni .Pagin afe" manman inmush " w we min li pinchin mwin epi li banm kou wi .Moi,je n'ai pas besoin qu'on me change des "diapers".Ca fait longtemps que je suis adulte et responsable de mes actes.

Je vous fais plaisir : Je me retire en toute amitie .
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MessageSujet: Re: Men ki jan 2 kou deta fini ak Haiti/GREAT LEADERS OF THE CENTURY: ARISTIDE, MAN   Lun 10 Aoû 2009 - 12:53

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Marc,mon ami

Je suis tout a fait d'avis contraire .Je n'aime pas me battre contre un adversaire avec les mains liees au dos sous pretexte qu'il est un incapable ou merite d'etre protege de ses erreurs .Quand je descends dans l'arene j'y suis pour faire justice ,non pas pour enseigner les regles de la bienseance a des malapris tetus qui se croient vertueux .

Qu'il s'agisse de vous ou d'un autre moderateur,je vous vois incapable de censurer ceux que vous voulez proteger pour une raison ou une autre . C'est a moi de decider s'il faut en finir avec un adversaire immodere a la recheche des titres d'un vedettariat malsain .
C'est a moi de decider s'il faut s'en debarrasser humainement ou le traiter comme une bete sauvage et sanguinaire .Je suis ,de par mon temperament , un guerrier accompli sur le champ de bataille,pas une femmelette qui veut jouer au guerrier .

Si yon nonm pa kon fe manje epi kwizin lan tro cho pou li se pa antre la dan ni .Pagin afe" manman inmush " w we min li pinchin mwin epi li banm kou wi .Moi,je n'ai pas besoin qu'on me change des "diapers".Ca fait longtemps que je suis adulte et responsable de mes actes.

Je vous fais plaisir : Je me retire en toute amitie .
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Bonour et bonsoir .

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