Rappel du premier message :

Qui ne s’en souvient pas du fameux discours d’Aristide daté du vendredi 27 septembre 1991. Un discours qui reste encore vivid dans le souvenir de tout un chacun, un discours qui a créé beaucoup de controverse.


Brothers and sisters who are born in the bourgeoisie in Haiti and who would not like to see the bourgeoisie fighting the people, and you the people who would not like to fight the bourgeoisie, but who know that the bourgeoisie must conform (play) according to the rules of the democratic (Pere Lebrun) game, today it's in the name of this people, I come to tell you: Y O U who have money yet who would not like to go live outside this country of Haiti, you who would like to live in the country, when you die, you won't take the money with you.

Put people to work. You must invest your money any old way, so that more people can find work, for: if you don't do it, I am sorry for you! It's not my fault, you understand!?

That money in your possession, it is not really yours. You earned it in thievery; you carried it through bad choices you made, under an evil regime, an evil system, and in all other unsavory ways. Today, seven months after February 7th, in this day ending with the numeral 7, I give you a chance, because you won't get two, nor three chances. It’s only one chance that you'll get; otherwise, things won't be good for you! (Shriek from people).

If I speak to you in that way, it's because I've given you seven months to conform, and the seven months are up to the day. If I speak to you in that way, it's not because I have forgotten that in days of justice (free wheeling justice), they could have put all these thieves to rout and grab whatever they now have, and which isn't theirs anyway. If you don't understand what I meant I invite you to understand. It's Creole that I am speaking, Creole should be understood.

Now, whenever you are hungry, turn your eyes in the direction of those people who aren't hungry. Whenever you are out of work, turn your eyes in the direction of those who can put people to work. Ask them why not? What are you waiting for? Are you waiting for the sea to dry up (He actually made a play on words, rhyming "Tann" with "Pwa Tann" which means waiting for tender beans to mature). Why don't you start? It's time for you to start, because the country needs you, the country needs us economically, so that we can do better, twice as much.

Whenever you feel the heat of unemployment, whenever the heat of the pavement begins to make you feel awful, whenever you feel revolt inside you, turn your eyes to the direction of those with the means. Ask them why not? What are you waiting for? Why this long wait? Are you waiting for the seas to dry up (the same allusion as above)?

And if you catch a cat (the slang in Creole for thief), if you catch a thief, if you catch a false, Lavalassian (followers of the President), if you catch a false...(he stopped right in the middle of the word), if you catch one who shouldn't be there, don't he-si-tate - to - give - him - what - he - deserves (staccato for effect and repeated twice, and his voice rising in a crescendo).

Your tool in hand, your instrument in hand, your constitution in hand! Don't he - si-tate - to - give - him - what - he - deserves.

Your equipment in hand, your trowel in hand, your pencil in hand, your Constitution in hand, don't he-si-tate - to - give - him - what - he - deserves.

The 291 (Article of the Constitution banning the Tontons Macoutes from political life for 10 years) is in the middle of the head where there is no hair (an allusion to Roger Lafontant), and says: Macoute isn't in the game. Macoute isn't in the game. Don't he-si-tate - to - give - him - what - he - deserves. Three days and three nights watching in front of the National Penitentiary, if one escapes, don't he-si-tate - to - give - him - what - he - deserves. (Repeated twice)

Everywhere, in the four corners, we are watching, we are praying, we are watching, we are praying, when you catch one, don't he-si-tate - to - give - him - what - he - de-serves.

What a beautiful tool! What a beautiful instrument! What a beautiful piece of equipment! It's beautiful, yes it's beautiful, it's cute, it's pretty, it has a good smell, wherever you go you want to inhale it. Since the law of the country says Macoute isn't in the game, whatever happens to him he deserves, he came looking for trouble.

Again, under this flag of pride, under this flag of dignity, under this same flag of solidarity, hand in hand, one encouraging the other, one holding the other's hand so that from this day forward, each one will pick up this message of respect that I share with you, this message of justice that I share with you, so that the word ceases to be the word and becomes action. With other actions in the economic field, I throw the ball to you, you dribble it, you shoot, shoot from before the penalty box, shoot on the goal adroitly, because if the people don't find this ball to hold it in the net, well, as I told you, it's not my fault, it's you who will find what - you - de-serve, according to what the Mother Law of the country declares.

One alone, we are weak,
Together we are strong. Together together,
We are the flood. (Frenzy ... !)
Do you feel proud!) (yeah ... !)
Do you feel proud! (yeah ... !)

Translated by Haiti Observateur

Drno

Je ne suis pas de Lavalas.. Mais ce que je dis sur le kidnapping d'Aristide me condamne t-il A faire partie d'une troisième catégorie de Lavalas? Question sérieuse, réponse sérieuse…

KHL,
Kool-aid drinker se youn tem ke yo anploye pou gochis liberal na peyi US ki we youn sel kote menm le ke li wrong. Moun sa yo pedi sans de rezonman yo depi se youn lide liberal kap pale.

Rezon ki fe mwen pale de manman ou ak papa ou se paske mwen konnen ke yo investi anpil nan edikasyon ou, e mwen kwe ke ou intelijan anpil pou ap kwe youn ancien diktate ki pa repanti.


Anybody that believes in everything the former dictator said needs to wake up now because he or she may never be able to do so. In other words, the third group of people, including KHL, who believe that Aristide was being kidnapped are naive.

Beaucoup d'entre eux sont des ce qu'on appell aux USA des left wings, et ils sont pres a voter meme un cabrit as long as ce cabrit la represente les democatres aux urnes.


Marc, Obama jwi men opotinite ke Martelly ap jwi la. 2 moun sa yo jwen youn pep ki te fatigue avek vie politisyen do kale e pep la tap chache youn van nouvo. Domaj ke yo ba nou youn nwa ki se youn extrem gochis liberal men jan ak aristid (men ki kon benyen) paske yo pwal itilize li pou yo ka di men sa neg nwa te fe sou pouvwa.

nan tout peyi ou passe ou we liberal pi fo nan pale anpil e patage sa lot moun genyen men zafe pa yo se pou pitit yo ak madanm yo.

My friend KHL,
You said, " cause it has been admitted by Collin Powell that Aristide has been deposed"
I think you are so right about Powell, but do you know that the same Powell went to United Nations and said that he has prove beyond any drought that Sadam had weapon of mass destruction. There are people in this world that make you lose your credibility when you mention their names to support your arguments, and I can tell you that Powell and Aristide are some names.

Also, there are other brothers that had posted several notes with details on this forum about Aristid joke ("yo te kinake mwe").

Gade Kadafi li kache nan mitan patizan li, so si ancien diktate a pat vle ale li te ka ale kache kay Dread Lumen ou Kay Ti kouto paske Guy philippe pat jan te ka rive la. Aristid se youn lach e youn machan manti. Si ou pa tap viv an Haiti 6 janvie 1991 le Lafontan tap esseye bay koudeta li a, Aristid te deklare nan radio " neg yo vini chache mwen lakay mwen e le mwen gade you pap regle anyen avek mwen, male" le jounalis la mande blofe a komman ou fe ale a, li repon, " mwen ale" paske lach la te vle fe tout malad ki te kwe ke li kon disparet yo ke li te disparet.

KHL, ou two intelijan pou chwazi pou kwe nan youn malad kom Aristid. Antou ka cwazi youn lot moun pa Powell.

Kenbe la fre mwen

Drno

This has nothing to do with intelligence.

I am fondamentally convinced that Aristid has been ousted from power by The US, the French goverment and the Dominican Republic. I have written about this conspiracy long before Aristid was forced to leave power.. I have it on record.

One thing I don't do and I won't do when discussing haitian political history… is to polarize a discussion according to my likes and dislikes.

I am very neutral.. But I know neutrality is not haitian.. we always have to be against something… but the matter of the fact is that I am not interested in les querelles de chapelle...

I défend my ideas if I believe that I am right.. I don't do it because it is Aristide ,Duvalier or Lescot… I defend my personal ideas rooted in my personal experience....If the haitian presidency status has to be defended, by virtue of this idea I don't care who the heck is the President..

Je distingue la fonction et l'homme… A lot of haitian do not and can not undestand this mere legal abstraction…

Bonswe Drno