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Atik saa se pou GwoWozo mwen mete l.
Misye te di tou sa deja wi.

Haiti’s terrible idea

By Editorial, Published: November 26

PRESIDENT MICHEL Martelly of Haiti has renewed his campaign promise to restore the nation’s army, which was abolished for good reasons 16 years ago.
He’s set a Jan. 1 deadline for a commission to produce a blueprint for reestablishing a military force.

The army’s reconstruction is critical to reviving Haitian “dignity,” Mr. Martelly says.
But we wonder what dignity is to be found in rehabilitating an institution whose activities in Haiti’s first free election, in 1990, included the following:
massacres of peasants;
violent attacks on the media;
politically motivated murders carried out by individual soldiers;
harassment of civic and political groups;
and the failure to investigate abuses within its ranks.

A year later, the army carried out a bloody coup d’etat — not for the first time.

For decades, the army was a source of intimidation, fear and brutality, an instrument of repression, not the force for security and stability that Mr. Martelly would have Haitians imagine.
Naturally, the president says a reconstituted army would bear no resemblance to the one that ran roughshod.
But it’s telling that in calling for a new army, he felt compelled to acknowledge the cruelty of the old one; as the president understands, the old army’s ghosts haven’t disappeared.

In a country suffering from massive unemployment, some Haitians see an army as a jobs program — even with a force numbering just 3,500, at least initially.
Others regard it as a balm for national pride wounded by the presence of thousands of U.N. troops and police, who have patrolled the country since 1994.

Mr. Martelly insists an army is needed to secure the leaky border with the Dominican Republic, through which smugglers pass easily, and as a civil defense corps to respond to emergencies.

But those are tasks that the national police, 10,000 strong and set to double in size, could be trained to address. The country faces no external threat. The specter of “terrorists,” which Mr. Martelly mentioned, seems to exist in his imagination alone.

The United States and Haiti’s other major donors have been unequivocal in opposing a reconstituted army. That’s significant, since there is no other plausible source of funding for a force whose start-up cost, by various estimates, would be $25 million to $95 million.

Half the rubble from the January 2010 earthquake remains uncleared.
Some 550,000 people remain in tent camps. A cholera epidemic has killed 6,700 Haitians. Hundreds of schools destroyed by the quake need to be rebuilt.

Does Mr. Martelly really believe it wise to spend tens of millions of dollars building military headquarters and bases, buying arms and uniforms, and training soldiers with no enemy to fight? Haiti has far more pressing needs.

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MessageSujet: Re: Haiti’s terrible idea   Haiti’s terrible idea EmptyDim 27 Nov 2011 - 16:24

Thank you Sassaye.You don't need to be Einstein to understand an army is not a priority in Haiti right now.If Martelly was even a clean man he would understand that the priorities right now is to fight the cholera epidemy ;to build houses for the poors ;to remove the garbages in the streets which a national shame and to provide potable water to the people.he would not say :"lavassiens smell shit" when they don't have even enough water to drink let alone to take a shower regularly.
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MessageSujet: Re: Haiti’s terrible idea   Haiti’s terrible idea EmptyDim 27 Nov 2011 - 18:01

Sa k pi rèd lan ;se lè w ap tande radyo yo e ou pa janm tande yon vwa ki kesyone zafè LAME sa a.
Mwen pa konnen si se ESKADWON LANMÒ yo ti nèg pè men pa gen yon vwa ou tande ki ap di w, ke peyi an pa bezwen yon LAME ;peyi an pa gen lajan pou yon LAME, de bagay konsa.
Nou konnen aktyèlman ke se DWAT lan ak ÈKSTRÈM DWAT lan ki posede radyo yo ;men kanmenm.

SI pa gen yon bagay ki chanje lan zafè RADYO yo ;nou fèt kòmanse pran moun tankou MATELI kòm chèf deta .Kounye an la pawòl a sans inik lan peyi an;pa gen LIBÈTE la PAWÒL.
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MessageSujet: Re: Haiti’s terrible idea   Haiti’s terrible idea EmptyDim 27 Nov 2011 - 18:40

Apa m't'ap li lót kote yon zonbi ki an Ayiti k'ap di on lót ke tout moun an Ayiti se on sèl pawol: bay yo lame yo. Sa konfime an efè ki travay radyo ap fè an Ayiti tankou n'ap di. Men m'ap mande kote animatè radyo sa yo soti e ki sa y'ap defand konsa. Pou mwen tout se yon band tafyatè k'ap defand 50 goud yo pou yo ka bwè tafya. Nancy Roc sèl chèf devan meute la.
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MessageSujet: Re: Haiti’s terrible idea   Haiti’s terrible idea EmptyDim 27 Nov 2011 - 19:51

martine la tourmente a écrit:
Apa m't'ap li lót kote yon zonbi ki an Ayiti k'ap di on lót ke tout moun an Ayiti se on sèl pawol: bay yo lame yo. Sa konfime an efè ki travay radyo ap fè an Ayiti tankou n'ap di. Men m'ap mande kote animatè radyo sa yo soti e ki sa y'ap defand konsa. Pou mwen tout se yon band tafyatè k'ap defand 50 goud yo pou yo ka bwè tafya. Nancy Roc sèl chèf devan meute la.


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An efè ;sa bay degoutans pou tande radyo yo.Jan yo fè deba yo ;kijan pou moun yo fè pa di ba yo LAME yo.Mwen t ap tande RANMASE ayè ;apre yon demi è de tan ,mwen etenn konpitè ;menm MOYIZ JANCHAL pran lan pawòl a sans inik sa a.

Pa gen pèsonn ki vle kanpe pou yo di zafè LAME sa a pa yon bon lide;pa gen lajan pou sa a e ak kilti nèg yo ;pwobabilite an sè ke se menm LAME an ki ap repwodwi.
Pa gen diskisyon ann AYITI ;ekstrèm dwat lan domine AJANDA a.
Se jousi,menm opinyon yon nèg tankou MARCUS a dwat;mwen pa bezwen di plis!
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MessageSujet: Re: Haiti’s terrible idea   Haiti’s terrible idea EmptyDim 27 Nov 2011 - 21:05

mesye ba moun yo repo yo ,nou menm nou dezabitye ak ravet ak mouch, ak pinez ak marengwen ak fatra, ak kk tout kote yo menm yo alez nan bagay sa yo si se vre tout moun ap di ba yo lame yo; nou tou wè se nou ki pa konn sa nap di.mwen map kraze yon kite sa nan zafè lame saa.depi nou te wè ke se yon moun tankou martelly ke jeness la chwasi e byen nou tou wè ke peyi nou te konnen pa eksiste ankor.Se yon peyi de malpwoprete, de devergondaj,de koriptyon,de kidnaping.Genyen yon moun ki te dim nou pa beswen moun tankou w nan peyi ya li te genyen rezon vre.Si se nan eta mwen wè Port-au-prince ak O cap ye nan video ti neg ak kakakok montre yo peyi ya ye e byen zanmi ou pa beswen fatige w ou pap janm wèm la tande .
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