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Quand un homme politique comme Monsieur Soukar affirme à la radio que le sénateur Moise Jean Charles n'est pas crédible . Il est évident que c'est un gnbiste qui parle . Tout le monde le sait que les gnbistes de cet acabit sont des partiaux, des complices des puissants , des anti lavalas et surtout des anti peuple.

Je n'ai rien à foutre à ce que disent , à ce que pensent ces journalistes gnbistes qui, aujourd'hui ont mauvaise presse .
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apre jounen trev saa an memwa victim 12 janvye 2010 , map vini baou bon jan repons . an atendan mwen remèsye Goya ki ba'w bon jan pawol.




Gnbis yo se gwo mantè.
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Wi DIDIER,men sa ki ap di sou pi gwo jounal sou planèt lan ,dapre LE MONDE,men ke w pa p tande sou RADYO DEMEPLÌ yo.
Se pou mesyedam RADYO KISKEYA yo ,li atik sa a ;yomenm ki ap plede repete ke yo te pran zam kont ARISTIDE paske li te refize pale ak opozisyon an.
Ou pa p tande sa ki di lan atik sa a ,ap diskite sou RADYO ann AYITI:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/29/international/americas/29haiti.html?sq=STANLEYLUCAS&st=cse&esp=1pagewanted=all

Wi ,se pou radyo yo sispann bay manti ,pou sa gen amoni lan peyi an.
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Mwen su ke moun lan radio kiskeya yo wontt jounen jodia . Yo mem ki tap pale midi ak swa sou radio ke Aristide ap pile ti bebe lan pilon.
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Mwen su ke moun lan radio kiskeya yo wontt jounen jodia . Yo mem ki tap pale midi ak swa sou radio ke Aristide ap pile ti bebe lan pilon.

Yo pa wont MAK ;yo konnen ekzakteman sa yo t ap fè.Yo pa t bezwen kwè lan sa y ap di an.Yo di bagay sa a paske yo konnen ke gen yon pòsyon popilasyon an ki ap kwè lan sa y ap di an.
Se tankou atak sou OBAMA a ki di ke misye pa t fèt OZETAZINI.Yo di preske mwatye REPIBLIKEN yo kwè se vreÝo kwè l kelkelanswa sa moun OBAMA a yo di ou fè.
Diferans lan sè ke OZETAZINI gen yon près pro OBAMA ki pou pase yo lan betiz.
Ann AYITI pa gen sa.GNBis yo gen dwa fè nenpòt akizasyon pa gen moun ki pou di sou RADYO ann AYITI yo ke se manti y ap bay.

Sa a se ti moso ""show"" sou TIMES DISCOVERY CHANNEL kote ANBASADÈ AMERIKEN an BRIAN DEAN CURRAN te demanti 3/4 sa GNBis yo t ap di e ke yo kontinye di toujou.
Misye te toujou di ke ATISTIDE te vle negosye ,li te deside bay tou sa GNBis yo t ap mande ,men se yo ki te refize tande e fè san koule pou granmesi:

http://video.nytimes.com/video/2006/01/27/world/1194817109852/haiti-democracy-undone.html
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ou di deja se pa pou zafè drug meriken yo fè Ti guy fè Aristide kouri,bon se poukisa menm,Ki jan fè Yo pa fè kouri ak Preval,byen ke Preval pa menm moun ak Aristide.dapre wou se paske Aristide ap revandike dwa pep la. e sa ka vre men mwen pa ka konprann lojik moun ki ap desisde politik etranjè meriken yan pou ayiti .si yo di se demokrasi yo vle enplante an ayti poukisa yo te ba Duvlaier sipor ak tout JCD epi yo fè kouri ak Aristide 2 fwa.Mwen kwè bagay drug saa genyen anpil pwa nan echek Aristide paske Bill clinton ki te mennen Aristide tounen an ayiti di se te yon erè.

menm yon moun tankou Obama nou di pat vle Aristide tounen an ayiti poukisa?Aristide di li te fè yon ti peche men li pa janm di ki peche saa.bagay Aristide sa konplike anpil wi.Gen neg ki pral vle kouri ak mwen pou sa mwen pral di ya men gen lè se wont yo pat vle fè ayisyen wont ki fè yo pat tou vini ak Aristide Fort lauderdale wi.Paske mesye ki te nan senl yo te chante tankou rosiyol wi.Genyen yon pwoverb ki di :l'ami de mon ennemi est mon ennemi.An tou ka jou na vle fè yon revolutyon an ayiti tou bon na konnen ki kalite ranpa pou nou bati pou pwoteje pouvwa pep la ba nou e ki moun ki pou pran tet revolutyon an.Paske fos obskirantis yo ap toujou jwen kek mèsenè ke yo ka peye ki pou arete presidan nou eli ya.e fok nou aprann tou ke boujwa yo solidè.Lè w atake yon gwoup yon kote se tout ou atake.alor si nou ki pou genyen grenn pou nou goumen ak yo se pa plede di sa ke nou pa ka fè.Mwen sam ka di nan bagay saa fok nou sispann fè woulem de bor si se vre meriken yo se yo ki anpeche nou devlope e byen se pou nou ronp relatyon ak yo.Men zafè ap kriye tankou ti moun depi ti kokom tap goumen ak berejenn mwen bouke tandel.Pran fizi nou epi debake nan peyi ya pou nou fè revolutyon nou vle ya.Se lè saa vre ma wè nou genyen kouraj nou pa ti toutou.ah ah ah ah ki ap jape eki ap mande met la banm yon ti zo souple.Fè tankou Fidel lè tranbleman de tè pase lakay nou di yo non mèsi nou pa beswen ed.pa nonmen yo Co Presidan CIRH pou yo mande charite pou nou.Kenbe eskanp figi nou ak yo.Men nou pa ka ap mande yo charite tou tan epi nap di se yo ki vle nou devlope kom sinistre.


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eske wap antrenen pou al debake ayiti ane saa tankou 13 ti mesye ki te debake jeremie yo?eske wap fè tankou gerald brisson?se pa chita deyè konpitè w ap joure moun non se pran fizi w poul al fè revolutyon sosyalis la an ayiti.ah ah ah ah
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WOZO;
Mwen pa konpann `kòmantè an;mwen jis ap repwodwi sa AMERIKEN yo yomenm ap di e mesye sa yo se de nèg ki konn de kisa y ap pale.
Moun tankou ROBERT MAGUIRE ki se yon espesyalis lan AMERIK LATIN.Men sa NEW YORK TIMES di l di""

He was espousig change in HAITI,fundamental populist change""said ROBERT MAGUIRE a HAITI scholar who has criticized American policy as INSUFFICIENTLY CONCERNED with Haiti's poor .Right away,he was viewed as a threat by VERY POWERFUL FORCES

Defen SENATÈ CHRIS DODD limenm ,ou sonje misye.Misye te CHAIRMAN komite sou AMERIK LATIN lan SENA AMERIKEN an.Se yon nèg ki te gen tout dosye ,sekrè ou pa sou AYITI,men sa misye te di ,sou w te li atik.
Mesye sa yo pa ""lefty"",se nèg ""establishment"" lan.

He wasn't going to be beholden to the UNITED STATES,and so he was GOING TO BE TROUBLE.said SENATOR CHRIS DODD of CONNECTICUT.

Anbasadè BTIAN DEAN CURRAN lan show ki rele HAITI DEMOCRACY UNDONE ki te dire preske 1 è d tan sou TIMES DISCOVERY CHANNELte mete tout kakachat deyò sou koudeta a.

Epi WOZO se pa yon kesyon de pro ou anti ameriken non ;ETAZINI se yon pwisans enperyal ke mwen si ke OBAMA anvan l te vin prezidan te konn ap kritike.
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Konparezon ant Aristide ak Hitlè sa'a yon ti jan san pidè, lèd, san jè'n.

Brignol Lindor ou vle fè pale'a, ou pale nan plas li, tout moun'n konnen kouman lindor Mouri e an reyaksyon a quoi li mouri.

Brignol se te enstigatè, moun ki tap fè ti dife volan, yon lit ant de gwoup opozan : Lavalas kon GNB.

Patizan GNB masakre anba machèt yon patizan lavalas an reyaksyon patizan lavalas yo touye lindor.

verite sa'a nou pap dil

Se nòmal pou sa ta lèd pou wou... se Aristide. Si se te Duvalier oubyen Michèl François, se bravo ke w t ap bat pou mwen. Epoutan kisa ke Ti moris ka anvye de nèg sa yo? Okontrè, li fè peyi saa plis mal ke yo toujou.

Kounyea Brignol se te enstigatè? Menm jan ke jounalis Abelard Ezéchiel se te kamoken pa vre?

Bay moun ki pa konnen sa ki t ap pase Ayiti jan de ti pawòl radòt pou fè fanatik pyafe sa yo. Bay Joel yo, Didier yo, Jaf yo, ak tout rès ti klik Titidis enkodisyonèl yo. Se pa mwen pou w bay yo.

Si w onèt ak tèta w, w ap di ke 3 jou anvan ke lavalas te asasinen Lindor, majistra konteteste lavalas Ti Gwav lan, Dumay Bony, te site sou radio non Brignol Lindor alyas "Kanson Fè" nan lis non moun ki pral pran ZEWO TOLERANS. Zafè retaliation ke w ap pale se radòt, asasinay misye te byen planifye. Ban m non patizan lavalas ke yo te touye an nan Ti Gwav lan. Sispann fè moun ri nou tout jounen nan bezwen defann yon sanzave tankou Aristide.
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Joel a écrit:
GOYA;

Se bagay sa a wi.Mesye lavalas yo kite ti nèg pran woulib sou zafè BRIGNOL LINDOR sa a ,alòs ke ARISTIDE pa t gen absoliman anyen pou l wè ak lanmò nèg lan.Mwen doute ke ARISTIDE te konnen si gen yon moun kli te rele BRIGNOL LINDOR an.
DOMINIKEN yo fè yon bon job ;ou pa gen dwa monte sou radyo e menm ekri LIV pou w pale de byen de TRUJILLO.

E tonnè boule m ,si m se yon DOMINIKEN e yo ta ban m pou m chwazi ant TRUJILLO ak yon moun tankou DIVALYE mwen t ap chwazi TRUJILLO.Yo di TRUJILLO te pèmèt plis ke 500 mil ti DOMINIKEN ale lekòl.DIVALYE yo yomenm ,PAPA ak PITIT ,ou gen dwa konte sou dwèt ou lekòl yo te bati..

Se sa k fè ,fò k gen yon bagay ki fèt ak PRÈS sa a ;paske sa w wè zòt ap repete yo ;se sa ki ap di sou radyo yo ann AYITI.
Sa m ap di zòt tou ;le jou pawòl ta vin lib ann AYITI ,nèg ap kraze rak ;paske pèp AYISYEN an pa konnen sa k te pase lan kanpay destabilizasyon gouvènman ARISTIDE lan ;sa pa pale.

Se pa sèl pou Duvalier pou yo ta fè sa, fòk yo ta fè l pou Aristide tou. Ki mal ke Duvalier te fè Ayiti ke Aristide ak rès san manman l yo pa t fè pi mal. Nou vòlò pase yo, nou vann plis dwòg pase yo, nou avili peyi an pi mal pase yo, nou touye moun jan nou vle pi mal pase yo... Alò, dekilakyèl?

Tout bagya se yon zafè laprès ki lakòz sesi oubyen sela. Alò, n ap fout yo presyon, n ap touye yo, n ap boule kay ak machin yo, epi nou konprann ke se yo ankò ki pou fè pwopagann san jèn pou nou?

Vrè problèm nou ak près lan se paske yo te konn bay opozisyon an pale tou. Yo te konn kite moun rele : "ABA ARISTIDE" sou radyo yo, pandan ke nou menm nou te defann sa.

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apre jounen trev saa an memwa victim 12 janvye 2010 , map vini baou bon jan repons . an atendan mwen remèsye Goya ki ba'w bon jan pawol.




Gnbis yo se gwo mantè.

Mache tou pare ti kòk, se pa ak nenpòt ki moun ki pa t konnen sa ki t ap pase Ayiti ke w pral vini bay repons lan laa. Mande lòt fanatik kòryas parèy wou yo pou w tande. Pito se kò w wou fè tou piti... e pale lòt bagay. Paske plis wou pale, se plis wou pral avili tèt wou.
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Wou pa beswen fache , ann nou diskite en gran moun san joure , san gwo mo.
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Mwen su ke moun lan radio kiskeya yo wontt jounen jodia . Yo mem ki tap pale midi ak swa sou radio ke Aristide ap pile ti bebe lan pilon.

Yo pa wont MAK ;yo konnen ekzakteman sa yo t ap fè.Yo pa t bezwen kwè lan sa y ap di an.Yo di bagay sa a paske yo konnen ke gen yon pòsyon popilasyon an ki ap kwè lan sa y ap di an.
Se tankou atak sou OBAMA a ki di ke misye pa t fèt OZETAZINI.Yo di preske mwatye REPIBLIKEN yo kwè se vreÝo kwè l kelkelanswa sa moun OBAMA a yo di ou fè.
Diferans lan sè ke OZETAZINI gen yon près pro OBAMA ki pou pase yo lan betiz.
Ann AYITI pa gen sa.GNBis yo gen dwa fè nenpòt akizasyon pa gen moun ki pou di sou RADYO ann AYITI yo ke se manti y ap bay.

Sa a se ti moso ""show"" sou TIMES DISCOVERY CHANNEL kote ANBASADÈ AMERIKEN an BRIAN DEAN CURRAN te demanti 3/4 sa GNBis yo t ap di e ke yo kontinye di toujou.
Misye te toujou di ke ATISTIDE te vle negosye ,li te deside bay tou sa GNBis yo t ap mande ,men se yo ki te refize tande e fè san koule pou granmesi:

http://video.nytimes.com/video/2006/01/27/world/1194817109852/haiti-democracy-undone.html

Chita ap repete sa ke yon nonm ki te pèdi djòb li ap repete... ki moun ki pete nan koton bay misye santi? Nou bliye ke se menm moun ki te mennen kriminèl san pidè an tounen an 1994, ki te premye kòmanse ak mouvman GNB saaa? Alò yon nèg entèlijan tankou Obama, se kont ke l kont swadizan demokrasi an Ayiti ki fè ke l pa t janm apiye Ti Moris? Mesye bay moun tèt yo tande, kontinye kriye...
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Wou pa beswen fache , ann nou diskite en gran moun san joure , san gwo mo.
mèsi pou atansyon,W Kamarad.

Bonswa Mak,

Pa genyen joure, fanatik yo ap anplwaye mo agresif pou dekri moun ki pa pran Aristide kòm sovè pèsonèl yo, mwen itilize mo agresif tou pou m dekri fanatik ki konprann ke yo ka bafwe tout moun pou tout tan toujou yo.
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Pou zafè fo masak la sirie sa'a, mwen kwè nasyon zini te pibliye yon raport sou sa. Mwen ta envite'w al li'l apre na diskite de sa.

ta sanble men'm mort yo se fek.

Pa fè'm ri tande ti papa!

Ou sanble de gout dlo ak Sovè Pierre-Étienne wi.

M ap bay yon ti konsèy, pinga ke w repete sa w di laa tout kote ki genyen Ayisyen tande. Genyen kote ke w pa menm ka ase pou w separe si w di jan de bagay sa yo. Mwen genyen yon moun ke m konnen ki te pèdi 2 manb fanmi l nan masak saa, misye t ap vale w san kraze tande.

Kifè BALE WOUZE pa t fè anyen nan La Scirie? Bat pou w pa tounnen Goebbels tande nan ap nye masak ke chimè Aristide yo melanje ak sousou nan Lapolis te fè sou moun 2 bra balan nan La Scirie tande.
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Epitou Goya,

Mwen pa t m,ete videyo an sou Fowòm nan pou te ka souye memwa viktim ke san manman lavalas yo te touye yo. Mwen te mete l la pou m montre nou nan ki eta ke nou pa t vle oken moun rele : "ABA ARISTIDE". Di yon bagay konsa se te yon peche mòtèl.
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Banm pose w yon kestyon nan ki peyi ou konnen chanjman fet san kase ze?sak fè Staline te fè sal te fè ya? sak fè Robespierre ak marat te fè sa yo te fè an frans lan/sak fè Fidel ak Che te fè sa yo te fè Kiba,poum site twa peyi sa yo.Lincoln pat yon diktatè men li pat manje anyen fret ak esklavajis sudis yo non.Ou genyen rezon wi paske Aristide pa genyen GNB ase poul te fè sak dwe fet an ayiti ya.Men fout se pa tou le jou yon ezkli ap kouri non.kondi Bissainthe di ya.Yon jou ap genyen rel ka makorel tou si nou kontinye ap kite mass pep la anba grangou kloroks e anba kolera.Jou pep saa pran konsyans de mal nou fel ou di yo te ka vale Goya san moulen l , e byen konsa tou genyen kote yo te ka bwè w tnakou yon ti ver tou wi.
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Pou zafè fo masak la sirie sa'a, mwen kwè nasyon zini te pibliye yon raport sou sa. Mwen ta envite'w al li'l apre na diskite de sa.

ta sanble men'm mort yo se fek.

Pa fè'm ri tande ti papa!

Ou sanble de gout dlo ak Sovè Pierre-Étienne wi.

M ap bay yon ti konsèy, pinga ke w repete sa w di laa tout kote ki genyen Ayisyen tande. Genyen kote ke w pa menm ka ase pou w separe si w di jan de bagay sa yo. Mwen genyen yon moun ke m konnen ki te pèdi 2 manb fanmi l nan masak saa, misye t ap vale w san kraze tande.

Kifè BALE WOUZE pa t fè anyen nan La Scirie? Bat pou w pa tounnen Goebbels tande nan ap nye masak ke chimè Aristide yo melanje ak sousou nan Lapolis te fè sou moun 2 bra balan nan La Scirie tande.


GOYA;

Pa okipe misye.Depi se yon bagay anti-ARISTIDE ,se swa misye te la ,lè bagay sa yo t ap fèt ,se swa li te gen zanmi l ki te la ;kounye an li gen zanmi ki te pèdi de manm fanmi li lan LA SIRI.

Bagat LA SIRI sa a ,klase l lan menm katagori lè misye ap konpare ARISTIDE ak ITLÈ an.Se pa LONI sèlman ki pa t jwenn ke pa y gen masak vre ;gen yon JOUNALIS KANADYEN ki t al fè yon ankèt ,li pa t jwenn kadav .

Le jounalis lan al mande ,minis LA JISTIS lan kote kadav yo ;misye reponn se pou misye al mande mesye RNDDH yo.Lè y al mande RNDDH ,òganizasyon kriminèl lan,yomenm yo reponn ke CHEN manje kadav yo.

Tankou m di w klase sa lan menm ribrik lè misye ap rele ARISTIDE DIKTATÈ SANGINÈ an ;ou pa p ka anpeche misye repete bagay sa a;men se yon bagay klase;PA T GEN MASAK LA SIRI
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Banm pose w yon kestyon nan ki peyi ou konnen chanjman fet san kase ze?sak fè Staline te fè sal te fè ya? sak fè Robespierre ak marat te fè sa yo te fè an frans lan/sak fè Fidel ak Che te fè sa yo te fè Kiba,poum site twa peyi sa yo.Lincoln pat yon diktatè men li pat manje anyen fret ak esklavajis sudis yo non.Ou genyen rezon wi paske Aristide pa genyen GNB ase poul te fè sak dwe fet an ayiti ya.Men fout se pa tou le jou yon ezkli ap kouri non.kondi Bissainthe di ya.Yon jou ap genyen rel ka makorel tou si nou kontinye ap kite mass pep la anba grangou kloroks e anba kolera.Jou pep saa pran konsyans de mal nou fel ou di yo te ka vale Goya san moulen l , e byen konsa tou genyen kote yo te ka bwè w tnakou yon ti ver tou wi.

Wou byen di CHANJMAN... Lè mwen tande pale de chanjman nan yon peyi, se pa konbat makout ak militè epi pou nou vini pi vòlò, pi asasen, ak pi gwo machann dwòg pase yo. CHANJMAN SE CHANJMAN. Moun sa yo ke w site yo, menm si yon moun pa dakò ak yo, men tout moun rekonèt ke yo te genyen konviksyon. Ki sa ki te konviksyon chat mimi myaw ke n ap eseye pwoteje an? Pinga nou vini di m ke se "ènmi" yo pa t ba yo tan non, si nou te jwenn tan pou te souse ti pèp lan li menm.

Pa asosye Aristide ak mass pèp, genyen yon ti respè pou tèt wou. Apa de lavalasyen kòryas ki kontinye ap repete radòt konsa, pa genyen moun ankò. Menm eksli sa ke w ap pale an, li pa t eksli ankò sou lavalas ah ah ah ah? Mesye bay moun tèt yo non. Kilè ke n ap konprann reyalite an menm?
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Pou zafè fo masak la sirie sa'a, mwen kwè nasyon zini te pibliye yon raport sou sa. Mwen ta envite'w al li'l apre na diskite de sa.

ta sanble men'm mort yo se fek.

Pa fè'm ri tande ti papa!

Ou sanble de gout dlo ak Sovè Pierre-Étienne wi.

M ap bay yon ti konsèy, pinga ke w repete sa w di laa tout kote ki genyen Ayisyen tande. Genyen kote ke w pa menm ka ase pou w separe si w di jan de bagay sa yo. Mwen genyen yon moun ke m konnen ki te pèdi 2 manb fanmi l nan masak saa, misye t ap vale w san kraze tande.

Kifè BALE WOUZE pa t fè anyen nan La Scirie? Bat pou w pa tounnen Goebbels tande nan ap nye masak ke chimè Aristide yo melanje ak sousou nan Lapolis te fè sou moun 2 bra balan nan La Scirie tande.


GOYA;

Pa okipe misye.Depi se yon bagay anti-ARISTIDE ,se swa misye te la ,lè bagay sa yo t ap fèt ,se swa li te gen zanmi l ki te la ;kounye an li gen zanmi ki te pèdi de manm fanmi li lan LA SIRI.

Bagat LA SIRI sa a ,klase l lan menm katagori lè misye ap konpare ARISTIDE ak ITLÈ an.Se pa LONI sèlman ki pa t jwenn ke pa y gen masak vre ;gen yon JOUNALIS KANADYEN ki t al fè yon ankèt ,li pa t jwenn kadav .

Le jounalis lan al mande ,minis LA JISTIS lan kote kadav yo ;misye reponn se pou misye al mande mesye RNDDH yo.Lè y al mande RNDDH ,òganizasyon kriminèl lan,yomenm yo reponn ke CHEN manje kadav yo.

Tankou m di w klase sa lan menm ribrik lè misye ap rele ARISTIDE DIKTATÈ SANGINÈ an ;ou pa p ka anpeche misye repete bagay sa a;men se yon bagay klase;PA T GEN MASAK LA SIRI

Wou mèt di sa fò! Se nan DCPJ ke mwen te ye lè Ti Blan, Grenn Sonnen Pele, ak rès atache lavalas yo t ap foubi zam yo pou ale Sen Mak. Sa m ap di yo, apa de nou menm ki se fanatik zye pete klere ki pa wè ki pa tande se ba yo Ti Moris yo, tout moun konnen. Se pa anyen sekrè ke m ap pale laa.

Si lè chimè yo te ale Gonayiv lan, yo pa t kite po yo la baa, wou t ap di ke yo pa t janm ale la nonplis. Al mande jounalis Kanadyen w lan nan ki dat ke l t ale La Scirie?

Se sa ki fè ke m ta toujou prè pou padone yon makout, men pa yon lavalasyen. Omwen, makout lan konnen ke yo manje anpil inosan. Men, zye lavalasyen yo sèch kou ke pen. Wou te mèt te genbe yo ak men yo plen san, y ap di w swa chanjman pa fèt san ze pa kase, y ap di w ke se revanj ke y ap tire pou moun yo ke yo te masakre ak kout manchèt, esetera e ra. E, se si ke yo pa nye kareman ke te genyen moun ki te mouri menm jan ke yo fè ak La Scirie an. Tonnas!
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Jandanm toujou lach. Yo antrene pou fóse moun pale, yo antrene pou met pawól lan bouch moun, yo toujou gen soupson, se sa ki fè yo toujou rete ak yon reyaksyon tankou w ta di ke y'ap veye kamoken. Yo gen Ti't Albè konsa.

Lè yo te gen yon joujou lan main yo, yo p'at ka fè yon mèd, pandanstan mwen te ti kwèt-kwèt mwen te deja ap pran matinèt paske m'te kanpe di ke Duvalier te mèt al chye lè klóch t'ap sonen pou li.

Yo tout bèt konsa. Nèg sa yo ki te konn mache anpil an Ayiti, apre Satan se'ap toujou yo menm tout kote yo pase menm lan yon forum virtuel..

Se pa ti moun radi tankou Martine la tourmente ni w ka fè pè ni w ka manje ni w ka fè sa w te kwè a. An reyalite, sa w te kwè a se pa sa, boss papa. Sa pwal pran yon doubl-sèkèy pou yo ekspoze sa ak trezor-la. Et je le lui offre volontiers.
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* THIS WEEK IN HAITI *

December 12 - 18, 2001
Vol. 19, No. 39

VIOLENCE FLARES IN PETIT GOÂVE

The town of Petit Goâve, 55 kilometers west of Port-au-Prince, is
famous for the resistance of its townspeople to the dictatorships
of Jean-Claude Duvalier and General Prosper Avril. However, it is
also the stronghold of neo-Duvalierist politician Hubert de
Ronceray, who is part of the tiny Washington-backed opposition
front called the Democratic Convergence (CD).

This dual heritage is perhaps what today makes this town such a
flash-point for violent confrontations between pro-CD
demonstrators and those backing the Lavalas Family party (FL) of
President Jean-Bertrand Aristide.

The most recent clash was on Dec. 3 when anti-Lavalas
demonstrators tried to shut the town down, including the schools.
They were met by pro-Lavalas demonstrators on National Route #2.
The confrontation between the two groups was so intense that the
police had to retreat under a hail of stones from the
belligerents. The pro-CD mob hacked and maimed Joseph Céus
Duvergé, an FL partisan, with machetes. He is now hospitalized in
critical condition.


Journalist Brignol Lindor of local radio station Echo 2000 had
the misfortune of being with a friend that day in Acul, Duvergé's
neighborhood. Incensed by rumors of Duvergé's death and thinking
-- rightly or wrongly -- that Lindor was a CD partisan, a crowd
composed of Duvergé's relatives and FL partisans set upon the
journalist with vengeful wrath, hacking him to death with
machetes.


The government deployed the heavily-armed police Company for
Intervention and the Maintenance of Order (CIMO) in an attempt to
restore calm. The CIMO would take down barricades, but crowds
would throw them back up. Gunshots rang out throughout the night.
On Dec. 5, tear gas became so thick in the town that Mme. Lucane
Dorléans, 76, died from the fumes.
Many residents fled the town.

On Dec. 4, Guyler C. Delva, secretary general of the Association
of Haitian Journalists (AJH), led a fact-finding delegation to
the town. They reported that members of the popular organization
"Dòmi nan bwa" (Sleep in the woods), allegedly FL-aligned, had a
hand in the Lindor reprisal-killing. The government has issued
arrest warrants for "Dòmi nan bwa" members and those identified
as taking part in the attack on Duvergé as well.


A pro-CD mob attacked Delva and his delegation during their
visit. They had to take refuge in the toilet of the mayor's home
from flying rocks and bottles...


Reeling under a deluge of official outrage from national and
international journalist groups, Aristide issued a statement
calling for peace and expressing solidarity with all journalists.
But the CD, trying to capitalize on Lindor's killing, stepped up
its rhetoric calling for Aristide's overthrow
. "The Democratic
Convergence says enough is enough," said Gérard Pierre-Charles, a
CD leader. "The population must rise up and say no to Mister
Aristide. Those guilty of these frightful crimes must be
punished. We must close the faucet of blood. We must finish with
this regime of crime, corruption, and impunity."

http://www.webster.edu/~corbetre/haiti-archive-new/msg09813.html

Kidonk, rezon ki fè anpil moun pa sonje non Joseph Céus Duvergé, se menm rezon ki fè kèk moun pa sonje non jenn gason sanginè Prosper Avril te bat epi pase nan televizyon ak san k ap kouri sou ko yo, menm rezon ki fè kèk moun pa sonje non fanm ak gason Duvalier yo touje, totire pandan plizyè deseni.

Lè zot t ap fè ti dife vole nan epok sa a, mwen sonje ki jan vwa de twa nan nou ki t ap rele "otan" te neye nan kakofoni an....Malere ki mouri Ti Gwav yo mouri paske Ayisyen privilejye ki te dwe konprann kote sa prale....pa t eka wè pi lwen pase pwent nen yo. Depi sou tan lakoloni, yon ti klik juisè ap amize li alimante yon chirepit nan mitan malere - pou enterè ki pa gen anyen arevwa ak amelyorasyon kalite lavi nasyon an. Jounen jodi a, apre 12 janvye fok nou ta wont vini sou sit sa a ap fè pwomosyon menm konpotman devègonde sa yo. TOUFÈ!
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Kisa on gnbis ye : se on destabilizatè, on visye ki pa jam dako ak desizyon pep la , se on ti minorite zwit ki kontrole Press la e ki ap fe difamasyon , ki ap fe senario , ki ap invente kadav ki pa eskiste . On gnbis se on obstak pou ayiti. Se konsa nap fout denonse yo sou net la .

Si nou retounen sou sijè an ki pale de Michel Soukar ki ap bay manti sou lavalas . Nou ka remake misye se on egri . se on mouche kap cheche atansyon lan sosiete an .

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COMMISSION ON HUMAN RIGHTS
Fifty-eighth session
Item 11 (c) of the provisional agenda



CIVIL AND POLITICAL RIGHTS, INCLUDING THE QUESTIONS OF:
FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION

Written statement* submitted by the Reporters sans frontières international,
a non-governmental organization in special consultative status



The Secretary-General has received the following written statement which is circulated in accordance with Economic and Social Council resolution 1996/31.

© Copyright 1996-2000
Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights
Geneva, Switzerland



[18 January 2002]


Haiti: Attacks increase in a context of impunity

Press freedom sharply declined in 2001, with a growing number of journalists threatened or attacked by supporters of President Jean-Bertrand Aristide. One was killed by these militants but as in the case of the murdered radio journalist Jean Dominique, the killers have benefited from the inaction of the authorities.

The year began with a call by two people close to President Jean-Bertrand Aristide for the murder of two journalists and ended with the actual killing of another on December 3, when Brignol Lindor, news editor at Radio Echo 2000, was murdered a few days after a member of Aristide’s Fanmi Lavalas party had implicitly called for his demise. Between these two events, press freedom steadily deteriorated. It got notably worse in August after an attack on the police training school by a group of former soldiers, which the government of President Aristide, who took office again as president on February 7, saw as an attempted coup d’etat.

Nearly 40 journalists were threatened or attacked during the year, mostly by police or Fanmi Lavalas supporters who accused them of working for the opposition. The government rarely condemned such attacks and the lack of serious investigation into them suggests that the systematic attempt to associate the media with the opposition, so as to justify the attacks, may have originated at the highest level. The murder of Lindor further increased the tense situation and was taken by the rest of the media as a warning. A dozen journalists were obliged to go into exile abroad after being threatened by armed Aristide supporters who took to the streets on December 17, when there was another apparent attempt to overthrow the government. The uncertain situation led four radio stations to stop broadcasting and several opposition premises were burned down by Fanmi Lavalas supporters.

After the coup’s failure, President Aristide reiterated his commitment to press freedom. A few hours later however, Radio Ti Moun, which is funded by Aristide’s Foundation for Democracy, accused “some of the media” of having “psychologically prepared people for a coup d’etat.” The following week, as he was presenting his seasonal greetings, the president warned journalists “not to tell lies.”

The year also saw the continued failure of efforts to punish anyone for the murder of Jean Dominique, the owner of Radio Haïti Inter. Despite government statements, virtually all state bodies obstructed the enquiry into the killing. The justice ministry failed to seriously ensure the security of the investigating judge, despite threats to him. The police refused to execute arrest warrants and police officers were suspected of having turned over a major suspect to a crowd of demonstrators who chopped him to death.

The Senate rejected the idea that one of its members, Dany Toussaint, was the main suspect in the killing. Only a campaign by Haitian civil society groups and the international community prevented the case from being shelved. The same practice of impunity was also seen in the Lindor killing. Members of a group close to Fanmi Lavalas admitted murdering Lindor but by the end of the year none of them had been arrested.

Journalist killed
Brignol Lindor, news editor of Radio Echo 2000, a private station in the town of Petit-Goâve (68 km southwest of Port-au-Prince) was stoned and chopped to death on 3 December 2000. He had received threats after opposition politicians had been guests on his regular radio programme “Dialogue.” On November 30, one of the town’s deputy mayors, Dumay Bony (Fanmi Lavalas), called for “zero tolerance” to be applied to several opposition members and mentioned Lindor’s name among them. “Zero tolerance” is President Aristide’s policy giving a free hand to police to deal on the spot with criminals caught in the act. Human rights organisations say this has led to summary executions by the police and lynchings by members of the public. Lindor’s brother strongly denied that the journalist belonged to the opposition and it was noted that Lindor also had pro-government figures on his programme.

An investigation by the Haitian Journalists’ Association (AJH) disclosed that members of the grassroots organisation Domi Nan Bwa, which is linked to Fanmi Lavalas, admitted killing Lindor. They told the AJH they had killed him “not as a journalist but as a member of the opposition” and had acted to avenge an attack earlier in the day by presumed opposition members on Joseph Céus Duverger, the leader of Domi Nan Bwa. The first target of the militants was Love Augustin, who said the crowd lost interest in him as soon as they saw Lindor in his vehicle and shouted “There’s Lindor, who Dumay says deserves zero tolerance!” Emmanuel Clédanor, a former journalist for Radio Plus, was with Lindor and managed to escape.The local court in Petit-Goâve issued twenty arrest warrants against Domi Nan Bwa and deputy mayor Bony after receiving the AJH’s report on the killing, but by year-end none had been carried out. Several opposition supporters suspected of involvement in the attack on Duverger were harassed however.

New information on journalists killed before 2001
The enquiry into the murder of Radio Haïti Inter owner Jean Dominique ran into many obstacles in 2001. The investigating judge, Claudy Gassant, was threatened several times by armed state officials, including Millien Rommage, a Fanmi Lavalas member of the Chamber of Deputies, police commissioner Evens Saintune and members of the presidential palace security service. Judge Gassant frequently criticised justice minister Gary Lissade for failing to provide him with proper protection. The dispute between the two men at one point caused the judge to resign, but he returned to his post a few days later after local and foreign pressure.

The investigation identified a Fanmi Lavalas senator, Dany Toussaint, as the main suspect in the murder, but the Senate several times blocked moves to involve him in the enquiry. The first time was in January, when the judge simply wanted to question him. Then in August, the Senate refused to vote on whether Toussaint’s parliamentary immunity should be lifted. Toussaint’s supporters staged several demonstrations to denounce a “conspiracy” against him and called for Judge Gassant’s own arrest. At the same time, the senator’s lawyers mounted a procedural offensive to slow down the legal process. They brought six lawsuits before four different courts – civil, summary, appeal and supreme. Five of the suits were based on allegedly illegal questioning of several people being held in connection with the case.
On 28 September, Paul Raymond and René Civil, two leaders of grassroots organisations with ties to Fanmi Lavalas, were able to hold a press conference despite the fact that Judge Gassant had issued a warrant for their arrest. A few days later, it was learned that the police had given no orders to execute warrants for the arrest of Richard “Cha Cha” Salomon, Toussaint’s “right-hand man,” and Franck Joseph, Toussaint’s bodyguard, both of them accused of involvement in Dominique’s murder. On 9 November, Panel Rénélus, a major suspect in the case, was killed by a crowd of demonstrators in the presence of Judge Gassant the day after he had been arrested. Gassant said Rénélus had been “handed over to the crowd by the police.”

In December, Raymond and Civil finally answered the judge’s summons for questioning after President Aristide had spoken to their lawyer. By the end of the year, the Senate had still not acted on Gassant’s request for Toussaint’s immunity to be lifted. As each new obstacle to the investigation arose, civil society organisations and Radio Haiti Inter, run by Michèle Montas, Dominique’s widow, demanded that state bodies do their duty and not hamper the enquiry. Dominique, Haiti’s best known journalist and political commentator, was killed on 3 April 2000 in the courtyard of his radio station. The station’s gatekeeper, Jean-Claude Louissant, was also killed in the attack.

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Men ,nèg konn reponn.Kounye an an se repons REPORTEURS SANS FRONTIÈRES nèg ap mete pou ilistre yon pwen.Mesyedam sa yo pa denye OPSYON FACH&IS yo menm an FRANS.
Prezidan òganizasyon sa a andòse MARTINE LEPEN bagay ki te fè yon pakèt bri an FRANS.Yon pakèt peyi ann AFRIK mete yo sou kanpe lwen ,paske yo konnen repitasyon yo .CHAVEZ limenm li di l ap arete yo kòm sibvèsif si yo mete pwent pye yo lan VENEZUELA.
Yo te jwenn ke anpil lan lajan mesyedam sa yo se Òganizasyon ekzile KIBEN yo ,ki te bay yo.GUSANOS yo.
Se la a ou gen dwa blame gouvènman ARISTIDE lan.Ak repitasyon mesye RSF yo te genyen ,mesye ARISTIDE yo te pèmèt yo ap paweze ann AYITI pou yo fè ankèt tèt chat.
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