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 The inhumane condtions of the haitian women in the sweat shops.

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MessageSujet: The inhumane condtions of the haitian women in the sweat shops.   The inhumane condtions of the haitian women in the sweat shops. EmptyDim 19 Mai 2013 - 13:29

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..The inhumane conditions in which women work in the sweat shops in Haiti is repulsive and intolerable.Very often I hear people say :"It is better than nothing"Is it really ?When a young woman must work 10 hours a day for less than 5 dollars ,and at the end of her shift she must satisfy the sexual needs of her supervisor which result of her pregnancy ;is it really better for her?

I often criticise the quantity of Ministers that form the haitian government because not only they prevent the meager resources of the country to serve the people ,but also they can not do their jobs because of a lack of humane and financial resources.What is the purpose of having a Minister of labor, a Minister of social affairs , a Minister of feminine conditions while workers and women in particular are being exploited as slaves in these sweat shops?

Yesterday I read with horror the sufferings,the humiliations that some women who used to work in these sweat shops endured.After 4 or 5 years enduring these humiliations they quit because they realize they are poorer than when they started.Not only they have one or two more babies from these supervisors they have to feed,but their health also is deteriorating.They can no longer endure these long hours of salvery in the sweat shops.

Yet instead of putting an end to these inhumane conditions in the sweat shops the government is jailing the workers who want to organize unions to fight these slaves masters.Rene Preval vetoed a law voted by the Parliament to raise the minimum wage to 4 dollars .79 cents a day.According to Preval's rationale and many others if he allows the minimum wage to increase these sweat shops will go somewhere else.If this were true then haiti should not have so many unemployed people for the minimum wage is lower in haiti than in any other country in the region.Even in the Dominican republic the minimum wage is higher than in haiti.Why the unemplyment rate is more than 90% in haiti?

It is really intolerable that in a civilised world these women must endure so much sufferings and humiliations to have the right to work in a country where there are so many things that needed to be done.Most of them come from the countryside.A country that is importing food from the United States and the Dominican republic for more than 1 billion dollars every year why can't these women work to produce food to feed the people?why do they have to work as slaves in these sweat shops that are not producing anything for the country?

Are these sweat shops really the best way to develop the country economically?Do haitians really believe if they have that potential they will be in haiti and not in Mississipi , Alabama, Arkansas or Texas.?President Lincoln said;I will never be a slave therefore I can not be a slave owner.Unfortunately there are some slave owners in haiti and in many parts of the world.The sad reality is the american government supports these governments that tolerate these inhumane conditions in which these women work and overthrow the government that fights for social justice.What is intolerable in the United States is promoted in haiti.This is the reason why the Clintons like Martelly so much.The american government will never help mercenaries to overthrow Martelly, but they will pay them to overthrow Aristide on two occasions.The boat people are the consequences of this foreign policy toward haiti.
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Mwen t ap dakò ak pifò sa ke w ekri laa, eksepte ke nan fen an wou voye flè lè w ekri:

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The sad reality is the american government supports these governments that tolerate these inhumane conditions in which these women work and overthrow the government that fights for social justice.What is intolerable in the United States is promoted in haiti.This is the reason why the Clintons like Martelly so much.The american government will never help mercenaries to overthrow Martelly, but they will pay them to overthrow Aristide on two occasions.The boat people are the consequences of this foreign policy toward haiti.

Ki gouvènman ki t ap goumen pou jistis sosyal lan? Wou pa tande interview Aristide te akòde a Jean Do an nan film ki rele "The Agronomist" lan? Mezanmi bay moun yon souf ak jan de alegasyon san fondman sa yo. Se sa ki fè, lè mwen wè lè n ap fiziye "ladwat" pou echèk Aristide, mwen mande tèt mwen sou ki bò ke li t ap mennen bak peyi an. Nou genlè panse ke se mande swadizan ogmantasyon salè minimòm ki fè ke yon gouvènman ap "fights for social justice"?
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genyen yon diferans ant yon moun ki di tout moun se moun ak yonn ki di lavlaasyen led e yo santi kk.genyen diferans ant yon moun ki mande ogmantatyon salè minimum e yonn ki pa pale de sa di tou malgre CPI la ap ogmante chak ane.genyen diferans ant yon moun malgre sabotaj kominote internatyonal ak oligarchi ya ba ti moun voucher pou yo achte inifom e liv; mete kantine nan tout lekol pou ti moun ka manje o mwen yon plat manje pa jou. Genyen diferans ant yon moun ki di ayisyen pa pral fè esklavaj an dominikani ankor ak yonn ki di yon jou tou 2 peyi yo dwe vinn yon sel.genyen diferans ant yon gouvenman kap ede sendika e yonn ki ap mete baryè pou sa pa fet.mwen pa janm espere ke reyaktyonè tankou w ap janm konprann sam ekri.genyen moun ki ne esklav de mezon.e yap mouri esklav de mezon. prensip esklav de mezon ekri nan DNA yo.genetik engineering panko rive nan pwen pou change DNA moun sa yo.mwen sispann voye woch nan lan mè sè jou si.
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MessageSujet: Re: The inhumane condtions of the haitian women in the sweat shops.   The inhumane condtions of the haitian women in the sweat shops. EmptyVen 24 Mai 2013 - 19:48

Tout sa ke w ap di yo laa se pwopagann sou papye ke lavalas pwopaje pou ti sèvèl poul tankou w yo. Men, pa genyen moun ki ka verifye sa yo. Ebyen wou plis konnen politik peyi an pase Jean Do ki te mete Aristide wou an nan anbara?

Bagay esklav de mezon ke w ap pale an plis sanble ak jan de avèg tankou w. Pa bliye ke genyen esklavajis nèg tou, e esklavaj lan kapab mantal tou. Tout fanatik se esklav mantal.

Wi! genyen ki di ke Ayisyen pa pral fè esklavaj an Dominikani, men sa pa t anpeche ke yo pase ranblè nan Plaine Marie-Bahoux, ki te youn nan plaine ki te pi fètil nan peyi an, pou fè ke non sèlman 2 men peyizan yo koupe, men tou flanke chèn esklavaj modèn nan pye yo.

Yon lòt bagay, wou sanble pa konprann konsèp ki rele "jistis sosyal" lan? Jistis sosyal se pa ouvè kantin (malgre ke se pa lavalas ki vini ak bagay saa nan peyi an e yo te itilize l tankou yon scam pou vòlò plis toujou). Fè rechèch sou yon sijè anvan ke w ekri e prepare w pou w gen tan ap rele moun "reyaksyonè" ak "esklav mezon".

Lè fini konprann konsèp lan, vini montre ki zak ki pou konbat enjistis sosyal ke lavalas poze nan peyi an. Mwen pa p pale ti pwopagann san fondeman ke w te fè deja yo non, m ap pale ki legacy, ki chanjman pwofon ke lavalas te kite pou pèp lan jwenn jistis sosyal?

Pito w sispann vre... Wou pa p ka bafwe tout moun.
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MessageSujet: Re: The inhumane condtions of the haitian women in the sweat shops.   The inhumane condtions of the haitian women in the sweat shops. EmptySam 25 Mai 2013 - 0:33

mwen pa diw mwen pa nan konble lan mè ankor. ki gouvenman ki te komanse yon refom agrè an ayiti;ki gouvenman ki te bati plis lekol an ayiti pase tout gouvenman ki te pase anvan yo, mwen pa fanatik oken moun men ènn pa bouche jem.ki gouvenman ki janm mande pou ogmante salè minimum lan?Si demach sa yo pa yon fason pou konbat injistis sosyal yo pou wou se pa fot mwen siw pa konprann valè ediaktyon pou retire pep la nan fè nwa ke nou metel depi endepandans la.Dim ki lot presidan ki te mete yon lot ekol de medsinn nann peyi ya. Wou menm ak konplis ou yo te fèmen l se jandam etranje nou te mete ladann.Ki gouvneman ki te fè ti ayisyen jwen bous pou yo al etidye medsinn kiba. ki gouvenman ki te fè medsen kiben rantre nan peyi pou ba peyisan swen?ki gouvneman ki tap kondane zafè fè travayè travay 10 zè pa jou;ki gouvenman ki te reklame pout tout ti Saintanyz yo al lekol?ki gouvenman ki te di ayisyen pa pral travay kom esklav an dominikani ankor?
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MessageSujet: Re: The inhumane condtions of the haitian women in the sweat shops.   The inhumane condtions of the haitian women in the sweat shops. EmptySam 25 Mai 2013 - 2:33

Se pa lanmè wou pa ka konble non, se bafwe wou pa ka bafwe tout moun. Jan w ekri laa se tankou sitiyasyon pèp lan te amelyore sou lavalas. Mezanmi wooooo!

Bon, mwen pa p menm ale an 1991 avèk wou pou w pa pale m de koudeta ki te anpeche nou fè yon bagay pou pèp saa, menm lè koudeta pa t anpeche nou ratibwaze kès leta ak vann dwòg. An 2004, eske Ayiti te pi bon ke an 1994 malgre ke te genyen anbago kriminèl pou 3 lane anvan 1994?

Men l ap pale de refòm agrè, salè minimòm, inivèsite, lekòl.... Wou mande m ki lòt gouvènman ki konn mande sa. Mwen menm, mwen mande w nan tout sa ke w di ke lavalas di yo, kiyès nan yo ke yo te realize vre? Talè w a lonje dwèt sou lòt moun...

W ap mande ki gouvenman ki konn mande bous etid pou jèn yo ale etidye nan lòt peyi, m ap kite pou w reponn kesyon saa lè ke w di si se gouvenman LAVALAS ki te ba w bous etid ki pèmèt ke w kote wou ye laa jounen jodia. Anplis ki gouvenman ki te reklame pou tout ti setaniz ale lekòl, men ki gouvènman ki ATYELMAN voye yo lekòl gratis?

W ap mande ki gouvenman ki te REKLAME, mwen m ap mande ki gouvenman ki te fè?

Se la ke nou diferan an.
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ou mandem eske ayiti te pi bon an 2004 ke an 1994.wi paske nou pat fè 3 zan ap touye pep la menm jan nou te fè ant 1991-1994.2004 la ka pat bon pou wou.men al gade yon video Jaf mete sou internet la wa wè ki jan pep la tap fete bisantnè indepandans peyi ya ke apatrid yo te sabote.Ki sa nou te regle apre kou deta 2004 la lè nou te mete tet ansanb ak meriken, franseu,kanadyen pou nou te deboulonnen yon Presidan ki te eli demokratikman.nou pa wont?si jodya pep la ap mouri ak kolera se nou wi ki respopnsab sa.Tout kou deta se pou peprpetye esklavaj ke nap fè fnam ak ouvriye sibi nan sweat shop yo.

Ou mandem ki gouvenman ki voye ti Saintanyz yo lekol .,men gen lè ou soufri alzheimer.nou telman bet nou pa ka konprann pou ki sa yo te fè nou destabilize peyi ya.Jodya yap volè tout ti res richess peyi ya genyen epi martelly ap fè karnaval pou fè nou gouye pou nou pa konprann sak kap fet.bann aveg ,ou pa beswen reponn mwen ,mwen wont pou wou.sa w fè ya?montrem yo non.nap volè lajan dyaspora epi nap bay manti nou voye yon milion ti moun lekol kote lekol nou bati pou yon milyon ti moun sa yo?Thunder gen lè ou konprann se anba ban yo mwen te rete lèm te lekol.mwen pat alerji ak liv tande.
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MessageSujet: Re: The inhumane condtions of the haitian women in the sweat shops.   The inhumane condtions of the haitian women in the sweat shops. EmptyLun 27 Mai 2013 - 9:58

Nou te fè 3 zan ap touye pèp? Wou menm ak bizango parèy wou yo genyen plis ke 20 tan depi na p peye gang ki pou touye pèp lan. Nou fè 20 lane ap vòlò ni leta, ni moun an patikilye e nou fout ap vann dwòg pase menm Escobar.

Di m ki kote 20 milyon dola wout Kafou an pase? Kote 65 milyon dola Teleco an? Kote 150 milyon dola Ti pwojè Prezidans lan? Kote Lajan VOAM nan? Kote lajan Airport Okap lan? Kote lajan CAS lan? Kote lajan dechè toksik lan? Alò tout machann dwòg nan peyi an ki di ke se Aristide ki parenn dwòg lan an Ayiti, yo tout se manti y ap bay? Ala tinonm pa genyen chans se chat mimi myaw 2 pye saa.

Depi yo mande nou ki sa nou fè pou pèp, lòt sektè pa t janm te ban nou tan pou n fè pou yo. Men, nou tout te genyen tan pou nou milyonè nan lajan sal. Fè, Lavalas fè plis milyonè nan lajan sal sou do pèp lan nan 10 lane pase tout rejim ki pase nan tèt peyi saa. Wou pa bezwen wont pou mwen, wont pou tèt wou ak rès engra parèy wou yo ki wè Ameriken, Fransè, ak Kanadyen kòm ènmi jounen jodi a.

Se kou yo lage nou ke nou sonje genyen yon bagay ki te rele ENDEPANDANS? Lè nou te jwenn 22.000 militè etranje pou te mennen nou tounen sou tròn nou ak pou sove pèp lan nan men militè ak FRAPH, nou te rele yo "bon papa". Men, lè se menm moun sa yo ki vini sove pèp lan anba pat Aristide ak chimè lavalas yo, nou rele oh sacrilèj! Alò se nou ki konnen ki lè ke blan genyen dwa foure dyòl nan koze Ayiti? Ebyen se nou ki mèt peyi saa vre?

Anplis, se nou ki te sabote bisantnè endepans oubyen se san koutya ki te vòlò eleksyon an gwo ponyèt yo epi fòmante fo koudeta pou elimine opozan nan dat 17 Desanm 2001 yo? Alò, apre 26 Avril 1963, si se te lè saa ke bisantnè t ap fete, fòk tout moun ta bliye tout sa ke Duvalier te fè? Petèt pou wou sèlman paske lè saa wou te nan bòl grès wou.

Pou enfòmasyon w, lavalas te destabilize pwòp tèt pa l depi 21 Me 2000 lè yo te flanke yon koudeta elektoral san jèn. Konstitisyon se pa sèl atik ke prezidan eli pou 5 lane ki ladann, li di tou kijan pou moun pran pouvwa a, li di tou pou n pa fè 0 tounen 9 lè n ap konte vòt. Li di pou nou pa pèsekite opozan politik menm jan ak makout.

Pou enfòmasyon w toujou. tout moun genyen dwa pa vle Martelly, men youn pa ka nye ke se sèl gouvènman ki pase ki voye tout timoun nan lekòl leta ale lekòl gratis ti cherie. Sou lavalas wou an, yo te genyen yon 1000 gdes "frè" pou yo bay chak ane, san konte sa ke pou yo "grese" pat sanzave lavalas yo, a tout sa, menm lakrè elèv yo pa t janm jwenn pou yo sèvi.

Pou zafè alèji ak liv ke w ap pale laa, mwen garanti w ke wou pa t yon pi bon elèv pase m, e ni wou pa janm pase nan pi gran lekòl pase m ni an Ayiti ni aletranje, ni nivo edikasyon w ni nivo entèlijans wou pa siperyè pase pa m. Donk, pa vini chante kantamwa laa, se pa sa ki konte. Se yon peyi ke bizango tèt nan fouk parèy wou yo ap fin depafini epi nou vle ke se pou tout moun rann yo glwa pou sa, se pa tout moun ki te bwè sa ke Aristide te ban nou bwè an nou menm.
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