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Sources say Clinton to acknowledge delegate math, consider No. 2 slot

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By Alex Johnson
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updated 6:38 p.m. PT, Tues., June. 3, 2008
Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois claimed the Democratic presidential nomination Tuesday night, NBC News projected based on its tally of convention delegates. By doing so, he shattered a barrier more than two centuries old to become the first black candidate ever nominated by a major political party for the nation’s highest office.

“Tonight, I can stand before you and say that I will be the Democratic nominee for president of the United States,” Obama planned to say in a victory celebration in St. Paul, Minn., at the site of the convention that will nominate his Republican opponent in the fall, Sen. John McCain of Arizona.

Obama’s victory came on the final day of the Democratic campaign schedule, as voters in South Dakota and Montana voted in the final primaries. But it was the decisions of the last unpledged party officials, known as superdelegates, who put Obama over the top.

Throughout the day, as Obama edged closer to the number of 2,118 delegates needed to win the nomination, more and more superdelegates relentlessly ticked over into his column, leading him to claim victory early in the evening.

Other notable black candidates have run for president, but it was Obama who broke through to be embraced by one of the two major parties, 45 years after Martin Luther King Jr. declared his dream for a colorblind America.

In a speech Tuesday night in New Orleans, McCain welcomed Obama to the general election campaign as a “formidable” opponent. But he proclaimed that he was “ready for the challenge and determined to run this race in a way that does credit to our campaign and to the proud, decent and patriotic people I ask to lead.”

Obama kills off challenge from Clinton
NBC News projected Obama as the presumptive Democratic nominee at 9 p.m. ET, as polls closed in South Dakota. It projected that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York had won the primary, but it said Obama would win at least six delegates. Combined with late superdelegate declarations, it said Obama had gone over the 2,118 delegates he needed.

Obama, 46, of Illinois, bested Clinton in a historic campaign that sparked record turnouts in primary after primary, yet exposed deep racial and gender divisions within the party.

Throughout the day, as superdelegates fell into Obama’s column, speculation increased that McCain could be facing an Obama-Clinton unity ticket.


In an afternoon conference call among Clinton and members of the New York congressional delegation, Clinton signaled an interest Tuesday in joining the ticket as running mate but stopped short of conceding to Obama or dropping out of the race, participants told NBC News. On the call, Rep. Nydia Velasquez said she believed the best way for Obama to win over Latinos and members of other key voting blocs would be to take Clinton as his running mate.

“I am open to it,” Clinton replied, if it would help the party’s prospects in November, the participants said.

‘Whatever is needed’
Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., a prominent Clinton supporter, told NBC News that “certainly to the extent that she will do anything to win ... she’ll be available.”

“She’ll do whatever is needed,” Rangel said. “If people think it would help, she’d do it.”

Lisa Caputo, a longtime Clinton adviser, said Clinton “knows the math just isn’t there, so everybody needs to be a realist.”


Caputo said in an interview with MSNBC’s Chris Matthews that Clinton would “bring a lot of momentum to the ticket.”

“She brings the female vote in spades. She obviously brings the older vote,” Caputo said. “She also brings the swing states; she's also bringing the Latino vote.”

Obama’s top strategist, David Axelrod, said the campaign was not yet thinking about the vice presidential pick.

“We’re just savoring the night,” Axelrod told NBC News.


Clinton to press her issues
Clinton stood ready to concede that her rival had amassed the delegates needed to triumph, according to officials in her campaign.

“If he happens to get the numbers, then Hillary will congratulate him as the nominee,” Clinton’s campaign chairman, Terry McAuliffe, said on NBC’s TODAY. But campaign officials stressed that Clinton did not intend to suspend or end her candidacy in a speech Tuesday night in New York.

Clinton will pledge to continue to speak out on issues like health care. But for all intents and purposes, her campaign is over.


Most campaign staff will be let go and will be paid through June 15, said the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to divulge her plans.

The advisers said Clinton had made a strategic decision to not formally end her campaign, giving her leverage to negotiate with Obama on various matters, including the possible vice presidential nomination. She also wants to press him on issues he should focus on in the fall, such as health care, a point of dispute during their epic nomination fight.

Other names have been floated as possible running mates, including New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson and former Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina, both former presidential candidates, and several other governors, including Janet Napolitano of Arizona, Kathleen Sebelius of Kansas and Timothy Kaine of Virginia.


Obama could also look outside the party to such people as anti-war Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska or independent New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg.

Or he could look to one of his prominent supporters, such as former Sen. Tom Daschle of South Dakota, or try to bring on a Clinton supporter, such as Sen. Evan Bayh of Indiana or retired Gen. Wesley Clark.


NBC News’ Steve Handelsman and Athena Jones, in St. Paul., Minn., and Andrea Mitchell, in Washington; NBC News political director Chuck Todd; and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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I understand how hard it is for Senator Clinton to admit defeat ,but she was not gracious tonight.Her speech tonight does not reflect a desire to end this fight and to unite the party.Therefore I withdraw my endosement for her to be the Vice President.

No matter what she does later on;I believe that she would prefer that Mac Cain wins the election instead of Obama.Contrast Obama 's speech and Hillary's and one realizes the true feeling of both candidates.I am very disappointed in Hillary not because she lost ,but the way she refuses to admit her defeat so the party can be unified and move foward in unity to win the lection in November.

It has been a long time since I heard a speech of the caliber that Senator Obama delivers tonight.The man is a natural orator maybe the new Ciceron of the 21st century.I am really proud of Barack Obama.
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men ala koze papa yon peyi ki ap voye enjen nan mars. ki ap bati yon laboratwa nan lespas.ki bay plis pri nobel pase tout lot peyi epi yon ayisyen wi; fok mwen repete l yon ayisyen di peyi saa se bull -shit.Ayiti se bull bè(lol)Gran moun ak moun fou di sa yo vle.mwen pa nan polemik ak pèsonn ni se pa atantyon map chache se jis dezannuye map dezannuye tet mwen ;non men genyen de bagay lè yon moun di li se ri ou blije ri sa.Paske se sel moun tet vire ki pou di yon bagay konsa.
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men ala koze papa yon peyi ki ap voye enjen nan mars. ki ap bati yon laboratwa nan lespas.ki bay plis pri nobel pase tout lot peyi epi yon ayisyen wi; fok mwen repete l yon ayisyen di peyi saa se bull -shit.Ayiti se bull bè(lol)Gran moun ak moun fou di sa yo vle.mwen pa nan polemik ak pèsonn ni se pa atantyon map chache se jis dezannuye map dezannuye tet mwen ;non men genyen de bagay lè yon moun di li se ri ou blije ri sa.Paske se sel moun tet vire ki pou di yon bagay konsa.
Rod, anpil moun pa konprand ke se yon moman istorik ke nap viv la!!!
Jodi ya fok tout neg sou la tè ouvri yon boutey champagne ou byen lague 2 e 3 gout klerin ate e rele Ayibobo pou Dessalines ak Martin Luther King e tout lot moun ki mouri pou legalite des races pou selebre moman sa.
Nou se yon group de moun ki gen 40 anè de sa pat kap menm votè nan eleksyon nan peyi USA .
Kounyen la yon neg paray nou ka gen chans vinn prezidan peyi a.
Sa se chapô ba!!!!
Mwen ta di papa’m sa, li pata vle kwe’m. Sa bay ti moun mwen yo espwa tou ke yon jou yo kap vinn prezidan peyi blan menm jan ak gouvene Kanada, menm jan ak Obama.
Sa se yon viktwa pou limanite, yon viktwa pou la sosyete ki montre ke « Rien n’est impossible !!
Si nou gen okasyon pou bay yon Haitienne natif natal komm gouvene peyi Canada w pakab rele sa BS.
Si nou gen okasyon pou bay yon African-American natif natal yon chans vinn prezidan peyi USA w pakab rele sa BS.

Pou moun kap rele Canada e le USA peyi Bull Sh*t al pran yon ti tan gade figui yo nan klass pou we BS li nan figui yo, men malerezman yo pakab pran sant lan telman yo obitye avek li!!.
Mwen pat kom sitiyasyon lot moun nan peyi blan. Petet yo pat gen disiplinn asse e moralite pou viv nan peyi blan, petet yo pat gen chans evolye nan yon bon milye. Petet yo vyole lwa peyi blan e yo oblije kouri retounnen la kay yo. Yo jwen opotinite pa yo, menm jan ak tout moun, menm jan ak gouvene Canada, menm jan ak Obama, menm jan ak tout lot imigran yo, men samble ke sa pa mache pou yo jan ke yo ta vle’l la. Se pa paske sa pat mache pou yo pou yo rele peyi sa yo BS, e jan Rod di a "yon Ayisyen wi""

Peyi blan reprezante yon oportinite pou nou tout. Peyi lakay pa bon konnyen la e pep la konte sou nou pou nou e de yo e kontinye voye lajan ak lespwa bayo. Donk chaj la vinn pi lou sou do nou nan peyi pa bo isit.
Donk nou pa gen tan pou ‘m pedi rele lot peyi BS.
Jounen jodi a se yon jounen istorik li ye e map profite de li pandan tout segond, minit, e le ki gen la dann.

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Pale mwa de sa mon frè,mwen pap desann wol ke Michaelle Jean ap jwe nan kanada men se Blan ki te nomen l nan pos la.Obama li menm se pep ki chwasi li pa yon prosedi demokratik.Ou di si w ta di papa w sa li pa ta kwè ,bon mwen dwe avwe sa menm o komansman kanpay la lè m tap diskite ak Keen mwen pa te kwè ke Obama tap genyen nominatyon pati demokrat la.

bagay saa montre kareman menm si Obama pa ta genyen elektyon an novamb lan ke genyen yon chanjman radikal ki fet nan evolutyon pep ameriken yan .Si yon moun tankou Collin Powel pat vle pose kandidati li paske li te konnen se penn perdi e jodya Obama genyen nominatyon pati demokrat se ayibobo pou tout neg rele tankou w di ya.Yè swa tout moun ki genyen pitit nan peyi ya te dwe mete yo devan televisyon pou montre malgre tout enperfektyon eta Zuni si w konnen sa w vle ou ka reyalize li.tankou Dr Carson di ya."no risk pay the cost .Know risk reap the rewards".Obama pran risk li jodya lap jwi fwi disiplinn li ak kouraj li.

"To get the great rewards in life ,you have to master taking (calculated) risk.Learn ,understand, and master risks so you realize, energize,and fully potentialize your value to yourself,your life,your future, and the marketplace." Mark Victor Hansen.

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Lè sanzave fè konplo ak delenkan pou yo voye kraze bilding nan yon peyi kote yon paket inosan mouri se nomal pou peyi kote yo komet krim lan rantre lakay yo al pann yo.Lè yo rete yo kraze avyon ki ap transporte inosan ki ap voyaje se nomal pou yo pase bo lakay yo pou fè yo konnen ke san yo ou san pitit yo ka koule tou.Peyi wa di ki bull shit la se li ki delivre lerop de diktati ki touye 6 milyon moun lan.se li tou ki premye rive nan la linn.se li ki ap eksplore mars koulyè ya.se la pi gwo recherch fet nan tout domenn medikal, syantifik etc mwen te an frans mwen te wè ki jan franse ap felisite syantis ameriken yo.Si jodya wap voyaje nan avyon wap kouri otomobil,wap li sam map ekri la kote m chita lakay mwen se gras ak ki peyi?ki bò ki premye genyen televisyon.telefonn.ki vil ki premye genyen elektrisite?Lè Castro ,Putin beswen achete manje pou moun lakay li pa mouri grangou ki bò li vinn achte ?

nou toujou ap kritike lot moun men nou menm sa nou fè pou avansman limanite.kanta pou kritike se nan sa nou pi fò.men moun lakay nou ap manje labou.si se pa ameriken pyan te finn touye nou tout. malarya tiberkiloz te fout touye 3/4 nan nou deja.se yon peyi bull shit epi 3/4 moun sou la tè ta renmen vinn viv la. menm irakyen yo lè yo mande sa yo ta renmen; yo di pou yo ta vinn viv o Zeta Zuni.Al an afrik kote sida ap touye moun yo mande si yo ta genyen pou yo chwasi yon peyi kote yo ta renmen viv wa tande sa yap di w, se fou yo fou?Nou rayi blan meriken konsa epi tou tan nap mande yo charite.Menm Fidel castro ki di li rayi ameriken epi li ap mande konsil ameriken pou li ba kiben plis visa ki vle imigre o Zeta Zuni.Mon chè fè chimen w tande pran poz natyonalist san natyon tankou Avril te di men ou paka joure moun ki eklere. ki renmen alez lè yo nan twalet pou ravet pa rantre nan vant yo ni vè.
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Et bien voila.les deux candiats pour la nomination du parti democrate se sont reunis hier soir.Nous attendons impatiemment les declarations du Senateur Clinton demain.L'unite du parti est essentiel pour reussir aux elections presidentielles en Novembre.je suis très satisfait de cette rencontre qui chassera les doutes sur la reconciliation des fractions du parti democrate.

Robert Johnson propose la candidature du Senateur Clinton au poste de Vice President .L'ex president Jimmy Carter pense que ce sera une erreur; lequel des deux a raison?Bien que la rationalité de l'opinion de Jimmiy Carter soit pertinente,je partage l'option de Robert Johnson qui reconnaisse l'apport des partisans du Senateur Clinton à la reussite du candidat Obama aux elections presidentielles..Je comprends bien les apprehension du President carter ,cependant je pense que le nombre des partisans du Senateur Clinton est une quantite non negligible des democrates qu'on ne peut pas mepriser.Ils ont menacé de voter pour John mac cain et je ne pense pas que cette menace soit superficielle.
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As Hillary Clinton wraps up her presidential campaign with a final farewell to her staff and supporters later today, questions linger about what's next for the New York senator.



Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill. waves after finishing a speech in Washington on Wednesday, June 4, 2008. (AP / Charles Dharapak)
Clinton will wrap up her campaign with a special event in Washington D.C. at 12 noon ET, where she will thank supporters and formally throw her support to presumed Democratic nominee Barack Obama.

This week Clinton remained coy about her future. In fact, just Tuesday she teased the political world during a speech marking the end of the Democratic primaries by asking, "What does Hillary want?"

She then went into a stump speech about ending the conflict in Iraq, health care reforms and economic help for the poor, but she didn't speak directly to what role she has in mind for herself.

Many political analysts say there's little doubt she wants the second spot on the ticket with Obama.

Paul Quirk, a specialist in U.S. politics at the University of British Columbia, says Clinton would likely want to use a place on the ticket as a stepping off point for another run at the White House.

"I think her interest in being vice president is really an interest in being president in the future," Quirk told CTV.ca

Quirk noted there is a "compelling case" that she should be on the ticket.

"It's unusual that the second place candidate was almost as strong as (the primary) winner and whose constituencies are complementary to the main candidate," Quirk told CTV.ca.

But Clinton's maneuvering this week has not been the right way to go about getting the vice presidential spot. As late as Tuesday, Clinton upset many Democrats by continuing to argue that she was the best candidate -- even after Obama had secured the delegates needed to secure the party leadership.

"I think that most analysts would say she should have used the speech on Tuesday as the opportunity to end the campaign and make a dramatic shift to supporting Obama," Quirk said. "Her decision to keep promoting her own candidacy hurts her prospects of becoming the vice presidential nominee.

It could now appear that Obama is being pressured to take her on as his running mate. If he did tap her for the vice presidency, it could make him look weak.

Negatives might pull down ticket

Although many Democrats have been clamouring for her to run with Obama, she may not necessarily be the best choice. Clinton's negative ratings consistently bounce around 50 per cent in the polls. Such negatives break the first rule of picking a vice president -- that the selection should first and foremost "do no harm."

Clinton, along with her husband former president Bill Clinton, is a despised figure on the conservative right. Both would give the Republicans a big boost in fundraising efforts and could bring a strong turnout of voters in November for GOP nominee John McCain.

"I think John McCain would love to see her on the ticket because then he would feel more confident he could overcome the Democratic ticket," Elizabeth Dauphinee, a York University political scientist, told CTV Newsnet.

Dauphinee, an American citizen who will soon head to the U.S. to help the Obama campaign, said Obama will need to shore up his national security credentials. Clinton would not help on that front, she said.

"I don't think it's a good idea to put Hillary on the ticket," Dauphinee said.

Quirk said Clinton may instead be offered a place in Obama's cabinet, should he win.

"A cabinet position is a hard choice," he said. "It's a trade-off between the short term and long term. A secretary of state or health -- or the position of attorney general -- are more important positions than (that of a) senator. But they are only short term -- and would she want to give up her senate seat?"

Another option for Clinton that has been bandied about is perhaps a position on the U.S. Supreme Court. But Quirk noted that because of her limited legal experience, he doubts it would actually come to fruition.

Therefore, Obama must deal with her carefully, Quirk pointed out. Because Clinton has so many passionate supporters, Obama needs to make sure that he brings her fully back into the fold if he wants to win in November. If he doesn't offer her the second slot on the ticket he should make sure he does not alienate her constituencies.

"The best thing for Obama would be if Hillary didn't exist and he could find a (vice presidential) candidate who could appeal to the same constituencies and not have her negatives," Quirk said.



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Bagay yo pa osi senp ke sa.Si w se Demokrat ou montre w ostil ak Jwif yo ou chire.Ou pa p ka genyen de Eta kou Nouyòk,Noujèze ,Konektikit ,ki vini fyèf Pati Demokrat lan.
Se menm jan ou pa p janm jwenn yon kandida Repibliken ki pa montre l ostil a Fidel Castro;si se pa sa ,l ap pèdi Florida ak eleksyon yo.
Se pwoblèm sa a Obama genyen ak jwif yo.Apre diskou l te pwononse devan AIPAC lan ,senatè LIEBERMAN te voye e-mail bay mesye AIPAC yo ,pou l di sa Obama te di yo,se pawòl nan bouch!
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genyen yon pwoverb ayisyen ki di bouch manje tout manje men li pa dwe di tout pawol.E byen se sa menm ke Obama konprann.Mwen sot tande diskou Senatè Clinton lan,mwen pa konnen tout potantyel chwa pou Vis presidan ,men apre m finn tande fanm lan pale mwen rete konvenki ke li ap yon aset pou Obama.Mwen pa wè yonn nan moun ke yo site ki pi pre ideyoloji Obama ke Clinton e mwen pa wè yonn ki ka debat ak Ni Romney ni Huckebee osi byen ke Clinton.Viv ticket OBama/Clinton mwen pral fè tout sam kapab pou m ede.Gnbis ki pa vle wè Hilary paske yo rayi Dr aristide se bagay ki gade yo mwen renmen li.mwen renmen sa li ap defann e mwen pa genyen prejije kont ni fanm ni blan.sak pa kontan anbake.
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