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MessageSujet: Sa ayisyen panse de Obama   Sa ayisyen panse de Obama EmptyJeu 17 Juil 2008 - 11:52

Haitians see pride, hope and hero in Obama

Tue 15 Jul 2008, 21:52 GMT

By Joseph Guyler Delva

PORT-AU-PRINCE, July 15 (Reuters Life!) - Scorned for decades after independence, invaded by U.S. Marines and subject frequently to the whims of Washington politicians, Haiti has endured a difficult history with the United States.

Now many Haitians believe Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, if he becomes the first black U.S. president, could open a new chapter and help their unstable and impoverished Caribbean homeland.

Obama's candidacy has awakened a greater interest than any previous U.S. presidential race in Haiti, where rebel slaves defeated Napoleon Bonaparte's French army to claim independence in 1804 as the world's first black-ruled independent republic.

Many Haitians say they view Obama as an inspiration and a source of pride for black people around the world, and many view him as a kindred spirit.

"At least I know that Obama and we Haitians have one thing in common," said economist Amos Dorcelus, 34. "We have no hang-ups when dealing with white people because we see them as people just like us and we don't feel any sort of inferiority.

"We are poor, but we are proud and we can stand up and look at them in the eye knowing we can do or can be whatever they can," he said.

Haiti is low on the list of foreign policy priorities for Obama, an Illinois senator, and his Republican rival for the White House, Arizona Sen. John McCain.

But Armel Mozart, 28, believes Obama is interested in Haiti because of his relationship with Haitian-Americans like Patrick Gaspard, a campaign director, and Kwame Raoul, who replaced him in the Illinois state senate.

"I believe Obama has an eye on Haiti even though he has not really been talking about Haiti," said Mozart, a political science student.

"As a black leader, he must have read a lot about Haitian history and his decision to appoint Gaspard to such a key position in his campaign is very telling," he said.

Haitians have long looked with hope and also some trepidation to their superpower neighbor.

TROUBLED PAST

It took Washington 58 years to grant Haiti diplomatic recognition after it threw off the yoke of slavery. Historians attribute the delay to misgivings among U.S. leaders about the impact a free Haiti might have on their own slaves.

After decades of political turbulence, the United States sent troops to occupy Haiti in 1915. They stayed 19 years.

More recently, powerful U.S. politicians have been blamed for destabilizing Haiti and blocking international aid because of their opposition to Haiti's first democratically elected president, former priest Jean-Bertrand Aristide, regarded by many in Washington as an authoritarian socialist.

Former President Bill Clinton helped restore Aristide to the presidency after he was ousted by the military shortly after taking power in 1991. But under President George W. Bush, Washington did little to help Aristide stay in office when his second term was cut short in 2004 by an armed revolt.

Many Haitians believe Obama's candidacy has already contributed to the advancement of minorities and black people around the world and its positive consequences will go beyond the outcome of the U.S. election in November.

"I'm very proud of Obama. It is a dream and it is history in the making," said Marjorie Laporte, a 36-year-old teacher.

Obama also enjoys star status in parts of Africa, especially in his late father's native Kenya, where newborn babies are named after him and people sip "Senator" beer in his honor.

They literally sing his praise in some Caribbean islands. In Trinidad, the legendary Calypsonian known as the Mighty Sparrow hails Obama as a "man of splendid vision" in a song titled "Barack the Magnificent."

Jamaican reggae singers Cocoa Tea and Damian Marley -- son of Bob Marley -- have separately recorded songs lauding Obama.

Part of the allure in Haiti is self-interest. Democrats are viewed as more likely to treat kindly Haitian boat people trying to make it into the United States than Republicans.

"If I were to vote, I would vote for Obama not for (John) McCain, because Haitians and other minorities are usually better off with Democrats in the White House," said Marcel Pierre-Louis, 47, who lived in the United States for 15 years. (Editing by Jane Sutton and Michael Christie)

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MessageSujet: Re: Sa ayisyen panse de Obama   Sa ayisyen panse de Obama EmptyVen 18 Juil 2008 - 19:31

Ce monsieur devrait faire partie des illimunati. Apres tout, il est membre du FCR. C'est blanc bonnet bonnet noir. On s'est compris. Obama est le jesus des temps modernes. Il aura trois ans et demi pour regler la problematique de l'Iran. Il ne reglera pas le probleme de la chine. Laissez moi vous raconter une histoire sur l'histoire du bouc qu'on a envoye dans l'hemisphere..... Mais bon, c'est pas interessant de raconter cette histoire... laissons tomber.

Bref. le boug ne savait plus ou il etait.................. le nord ou le sud....
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MessageSujet: Re: Sa ayisyen panse de Obama   Sa ayisyen panse de Obama EmptyVen 18 Juil 2008 - 20:16

WYCLEF JEAN SE YOUN NAN ENVITE NAN KOVANSYON DEMOKRAT YO.LIGEN POU'L CHANTE DEVAN 76 MIL MOUN....
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MessageSujet: Re: Sa ayisyen panse de Obama   Sa ayisyen panse de Obama EmptyVen 18 Juil 2008 - 20:44

eh alors.. sera t il avec shakira
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MessageSujet: Re: Sa ayisyen panse de Obama   Sa ayisyen panse de Obama EmptyVen 18 Juil 2008 - 21:01

li bon nou pale de sa ayisyen panse de Obama ,men genyen yon kestyon ki pi enportan toujou se sa majorite afro ameriken an jeneral panse de Obama sè jou si ;eske reyaktyon jesse jackson lan se youn evènman isole ou byen eske li reflete enn ke anpil afro ameriken patikilyèman jeneraton pam la lan ki se jeneratyon Jessee jackson ;eske se jalousi ki monte jessee.ayisyen genyen rezon di ou pa jnam konnen ki lè youn moun ap fou.

mwen pap ka kritike Obama non men mwen genyen enpresyon ke li kite pwopagann John Mac Cain yo enfliyanse kondwit li.Se konsa aswè ya mwen tande ke John mac cain di li kontan ke Obama pral rankontre ak jeneral Paetreus pou youn premyè fwa li apiye sou mo premye fwa pou montre ke Obama pa genyen ase matirite nan zafè etranjè.

Se sa jeneral Wesley Clarke la di ya ke pou Obama te repete chak fwa ke John mac cain vle montre ke li pa genyen ase eksperyans pou li Presidan.e se vre ki sa youn pilot de konba ki pase konbyen tan nan prison genyen pou wè ak kalifikatyon youn moun poul presidan.Si John mac cain genyen eksperyans nan zafè etranje konsa ki janl fè li te otorize youn gè imoral ,ilegal ki la koz anpil milye jenn ameriken pèdi la vi yo initilman.e diverjans ant Eta Zuni e North Korea montre klerman ke divejans ak Iraq la tou ta ka regle diplomatikman ; se pa jodya Bush voye diplomat meriken al pale ak Presidan Iranyen an.Si se kalite eksperyans sa yo ke John mac cain genyen e byen pito OBama pa janm genyen yo.
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MessageSujet: Re: Sa ayisyen panse de Obama   Sa ayisyen panse de Obama EmptySam 19 Juil 2008 - 10:51

mwen resevwa youn E-mail de Moveon.org ki genyen youn diskou ke Al Gore di nan semenn lan sou energy mwen ta renmen transfere l sou forum lan pou nou tout ka tande koken chenn diskou saa.Mwen ta renmen youn nan nou eksplikem ki jan pou mwen fe poste Video diskou a sou forum lan.

Mwen telman enpresyone pa profondè diskou saa ke mwen voye youn kotizatyon imedyatman bay organizatyon.Mwen pa konnen si Obama ap genyen elektyon an Novanb lan men mwen konvenki ke se pi gran erè ke demokrat yo fè yo pat draft Al Gore tankou men tap mande ya.paske nanpren moyen pou youn egare tankou John Mac Cain ta genyen menm pretantyon poul debat Al Gore nan oken kestyon :economik.politik, sosyal, sekirité etc.Mwen pa konnen ki moun ke Obama pral chwasi kom Vice presidan men mwen ta swete ke li chwazi Al gore paske se sel politisyen ke mwen tande ki pwopose youn bagay ki fè sans.Fok se tande nou tande diskou saa pou nou ka konprann de danje ki menase pa selman Eta Zuni men le mond antye.Alò fwa saa nanpren santimantalite ke John mac cain se youn ansyen jandam li te pran prison o Vietnam. fok se youn moun ki genyen youn visyon global de politik ki pou pran mayet nan pi gwo peyi nan mond lan.

Ankò youn fwa mwen mande ed youn moun ki pou ede m transfere video a sou forum lan. Mèsi.
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