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 Aristide ak Minouche sanble pa telman byen aksèpte an Afrik di Sid

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MessageSujet: Aristide ak Minouche sanble pa telman byen aksèpte an Afrik di Sid   Aristide ak Minouche sanble pa telman byen aksèpte an  Afrik di Sid EmptyLun 6 Avr 2009 - 13:36

Winds of change for exiled Aristide

While exiled Ethiopian dictator Mengistu Haile Mariam Mengistu must be wondering if the winds of change rustling the autumn leaves of Harare might disturb his nest, another exiled leader nearby in Pretoria might be having similar worries and for somewhat related reasons.

Jean-Bertrand Aristide, deposed as president of Haiti in February 2004, has been living in South Africa as a guest of the government since then. He was actually more former president Thabo Mbeki's guest than South Africa's, which could be a problem. In January 2004, Mbeki was one of only two international leaders to accept an invitation from Aristide to attend the bicentennial of the revolt of Haitian slaves against the French colonial power.

Already the rebellion against Aristide's rule was rumbling and a helicopter carrying some of Mbeki's security people was fired at from the ground. An SA Navy ship had to be parked off-shore in case Mbeki had to flee and the South African government contributed R10 million for the celebrations.

Mbeki explained all of this effort and cost to an exasperated country as being a necessary show of support for the first successful rebellion against colonial rule.
A month later, the rumbling that began while Mbeki was there, swept Aristide from power to South Africa, where he remains a guest at state expense.
That year Mbeki's friend Barney Pityana, vice-chancellor of Unisa, gave Aristide and his wife Mildred research jobs at the university. In 2007, Mbeki attended the graduation ceremony where Aristide received a PhD in African languages.
Later, several academics slammed his thesis as a sham, saying his attempt to establish a link between Zulu and Haitian Creole was based on gross ignorance of Zulu.
A senior Unisa academic this week said Aristide was a "ghost professor" at the university as no one really knew what he did, though his wife is deputy editor of the journal of the African Renaissance Centre. He said there was a general feeling at Unisa that the Aristides were being paid a lot to do very little - though Education Minister Naledi Pandor has said in Parliament the couple earn no basic salary and only get paid for research.

The Unisa academic also speculated that Aristide's tenure at the university might be in jeopardy if Pityana were removed from the vice-chancellorship as unionists and the students congress want him to be. Though Cope politicians have said the reason they want him out is because he has shown support for their party, the academic said the real reason was his autocratic and opaque style of management.

Will Mbeki's political demise put pressure on Aristide to go home? A senior ANC official in the Zuma camp thinks not, especially since the Haiti regime doesn't want him.

"We were refugees ourselves all over Africa and the world and so if we kick Aristide out, we would be accused of amnesia," he said.







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MessageSujet: Re: Aristide ak Minouche sanble pa telman byen aksèpte an Afrik di Sid   Aristide ak Minouche sanble pa telman byen aksèpte an  Afrik di Sid EmptyMar 7 Avr 2009 - 9:18

Wi Rico,
Lan rayisman an pou Aristide ,depi li an difikilte w ap bat bravo.Alòs poukisa ou pa vle li tounen ann Ayiti?
W ap fè gro grenn ou pa vle sa non plis;paske ou sispèk ke si sa ta fèt ,bal lan fini.
Pwoblèm nou ,se ke nou pa ta ka mete l lan prizon ou byen mwen pa konnen.
Konsèy mwen ta bannou ,priye pou Sid Afriken yo kenbe misye lan Afrik di Sid toujou wi.
Lan ka kontrè an ,nou ka deklanche yon chenn evènman ,ke nou pa ka kontwole e ki pote nou tout ale
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Rico,

Kilè ou va fè diferans ant vi privée ak vi politik?

Ou pa ta renmen pale de aktivite pèsonèl ou menm ak madan ou sou fowum sa sou Entènèt, pou kisa wap fè Titid ak madan li sa?
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colocolo a écrit:
Rico,

Kilè ou va fè diferans ant vi privée ak vi politik?

Ou pa ta renmen pale de aktivite pèsonèl ou menm ak madan ou sou fowum sa sou Entènèt, pou kisa wap fè Titid ak madan li sa?


Depi w nan politik, resevwa lajan pèp, byen mennen ak lajan pèp. Sitou decherpiye pèp e byen se 2 pèsonaj piblik ak tout fanm dous. Mwen pa manje lajan shango kidonk ni mwen ak fanm dous kinanm se domenn prive. Mwen fenk komanse frape sou klou pou reveye lespri banm moun depresif move konplis koken
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MessageSujet: Re: Aristide ak Minouche sanble pa telman byen aksèpte an Afrik di Sid   Aristide ak Minouche sanble pa telman byen aksèpte an  Afrik di Sid EmptyMer 8 Avr 2009 - 10:34

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Rico,

Kilè ou va fè diferans ant vi privée ak vi politik?

Ou pa ta renmen pale de aktivite pèsonèl ou menm ak madan ou sou fowum sa sou Entènèt, pou kisa wap fè Titid ak madan li sa?


Depi w nan politik, resevwa lajan pèp, byen mennen ak lajan pèp. Sitou decherpiye pèp e byen se 2 pèsonaj piblik ak tout fanm dous. Mwen pa manje lajan shango kidonk ni mwen ak fanm dous kinanm se domenn prive. Mwen fenk komanse frape sou klou pou reveye lespri banm moun depresif move konplis koken

SE DOMAJ GRC PAP FE TRAVAY LI.OU TA SEZI APRANN KI MOUN RICO YE.
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MessageSujet: Re: Aristide ak Minouche sanble pa telman byen aksèpte an Afrik di Sid   Aristide ak Minouche sanble pa telman byen aksèpte an  Afrik di Sid EmptyMer 8 Avr 2009 - 12:18

saki di w rico se pa menm kabrit tomazo, djab pa fè djab pè, dotan plis pa gen anyen pou sere.
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MessageSujet: Re: Aristide ak Minouche sanble pa telman byen aksèpte an Afrik di Sid   Aristide ak Minouche sanble pa telman byen aksèpte an  Afrik di Sid EmptyMer 8 Avr 2009 - 16:12

Rico a écrit:
colocolo a écrit:
Rico,

Kilè ou va fè diferans ant vi privée ak vi politik?

Ou pa ta renmen pale de aktivite pèsonèl ou menm ak madan ou sou fowum sa sou Entènèt, pou kisa wap fè Titid ak madan li sa?


Depi w nan politik, resevwa lajan pèp, byen mennen ak lajan pèp. Sitou decherpiye pèp e byen se 2 pèsonaj piblik ak tout fanm dous. Mwen pa manje lajan shango kidonk ni mwen ak fanm dous kinanm se domenn prive. Mwen fenk komanse frape sou klou pou reveye lespri banm moun depresif move konplis koken

Sa Rico di w la se sa, Aristide renonse ak vi prive l depi lè li te poze kandidati l nan eleksyon 1990 yo. E sa valab pou tout pèsonaj politik.
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