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@Piporiko,
Zanmi mwen, m sezi anpil lèm wè w rele Ari Jozef yon malandren. Mwen pa konn misye ni an pent ni an penti. Sepandan, Radyo fokus entanasyonal se yo stasyon ke mwen swiv chak jou. Ari toujou bay bon nouvel, e lè misye di "Vant bèf" sa vle di ke sa li di la a pa gen manti ladann. Ari Jozef bay toutmoun yon tchalanj kote li di " Nenpòt moun ki di sa li di yo se manti, l'ap fèmen pwogram la". Ari toujou vini ak "Retwo Fokis" kote li vini ak sa entèl te di. Mwen pa konnen kote li jwenn nouvèl li bay yo. Mwen kapab di preske tout sa Ari di ki pral fèt a 90% li rive vre. Misye toujou di bèf li a rele "Loucy" e, sensèman Ari Jozef gen anpil kredibilite lan kominote k ap swiv sou sit entènèt la.
Nou Kapab tande pwogram yo sou sit www.toutmounfocus.com. Lè Lendi swa kote "Fokis la pap dòmi" de 8 diswa jiska x di maten. Madi a Jedi de 6 zè di swa jiska 8 tè di swa. Nou kapab tande Ari Jozef tou sou www.Radiotropicale.com. Abonantandè, sali!!!


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@Colocolo,
Frè mwen Nou pafè menas a okenn moun. Nou kwè lan yo sosyete kote toumoun gen dwa fè opinyon yo pase lib e libè.
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@Piporiko,
Zanmi mwen, m sezi anpil lèm wè w rele Ari Jozef yon malandren. Mwen pa konn misye ni an pent ni an penti. Sepandan, Radyo fokus entanasyonal se yo stasyon ke mwen swiv chak jou. Ari toujou bay bon nouvel, e lè misye di "Vant bèf" sa vle di ke sa li la a pa gen manti ladann. Ari Jozef bay toutmoun yon tchalanj kote li di " Nenpòt moun ki di sa li di yo se manti, l'ap fèmen pwogram la". Ari toujou vini ak "Retwo Fokis" kote li vini ak sa entèl te di. Mwen pa konnen kote li jwenn nouvèl li bay yo. Mwen kapab di preske tout sa Ari di ki pral fèt a 90% li rive vre. Misye toujou di bèf li a rele "Loucy" e, sensèman Ari Jozef gen anpil kredibilite lan kominote k ap swiv sou sit entènèt la.
Nou Kapab tande pwogram yo sou sit www.toutmounfocus.com. Lè Lendi swa kote "Fokis la pap dòmi" de 8 diswa jiska x di maten. Madi a Jedi de 6 zè di swa jiska 8 tè di swa. Nou kapag tande Ari Jozef tou sou www.Radiotropicale.com. Abonantandè, sali!!!


MWEN RETIRE MO MALANDREN AN.HARRY JOSEPH,SE YON VOMISMAN,ORDURE ET UNE LATRINE.MOUCHE SE YON SEL OBSESION LI GENGNEN LAVALAS,LVALAS.LAP JOURE MOUN VOLE?LI PA FOUTI METE PYE LINAN POTOPRENS PASKE LI TE VOLO LAJAN PASPO LE LI TE KONSIL NAN DOMONIKANI.KREDIBILITE?ANT LI AK AL CAPONE,FRANTZ LEROY,KI LES KI PI KREDIB?

"Santo Domingo, 11 fev. 05 [AlterPresse] --- La Mission diplomatique haïtienne à Santo Domingo traverse une importante crise de représentation, à cause d’éventuelles intrigues politiques qui affecteraient le déroulement des tâches diplomatiques et consulaires, a révélé une source diplomatique à la rédaction d’AlterPresse dans la capitale dominicaine.


Le Vice-Consul Harry Joseph, ancien directeur du programme radiophonique Haïti Focus, agit comme s’il serait « le porte-parole officiel du gouvernement haïtien » et ferait jouer ses contacts politiques avec les autorités haïtiennes, « particulièrement le Premier Ministre Gerard Latortue », a fait savoir la même source qui a souhaité garder l’anonymat."







BARAHONA, Dominican Republic.- The Haitian Government ordered an investigation into an international network which traffics with Chinese, which supposedly had links with Haiti’s consulate in the Dominican city of Barahona.
Haiti’s current chief of affairs in the consulate in the southern Dominican territory, Pierre Laud Lagrenade was notified by his country’s Foreign Ministry that visa services are suspended until the probe concludes.
Dominican, Colombian, Panamanian and Chinese citizens must obtain a tourist visa to travel to Haiti, with a single entry costing US$85 in the Haitian consulates in Dominican territory, according to sources.
The Haitian authorities were alerted of the case by Haiti’s Trade Development Office in China, which points out that China’s immigration services have requested support to determine the routes by which its citizen obtained Haitian visas, without even leaving their territory.
According to the news site Clave Digital, quoting www.espacinsular.org, an international crime network obtained tourist or businesses visas for Chinese citizens who then reached United States or Canada using Haiti and Dominican Republic as a bridge, through Barahona’s consulate. The passports were sent from China via private courier, then given to a Chinese or Dominican local contact who returned them to China.
Haiti’s consulates around the world are not authorized to issue visas to citizens of communist China without prior approval of the Haitian Foreign Ministry, as is part of Haiti’s cooperation in the war against the trafficking of human beings.
The decision was taken at the end of June, 2002 and after the scandal of trafficking with Chinese in which the ex- Dominican consul in the northern city of Cape Haitien, Radhamés Ramos Garcia (nicknamed El Chino) was implicated and later convicted.
Data obtained in China and Port-au-Prince revealed that the dealers paid US$3,000 for each visa. Investigators are trying to determine the number of visas issued and who is directly implied.
For now, Dominican Customs and Immigration offices in Jimaní, Elías Piña and Pedernales have been alerted to the fact that the "I.D." of employees signed by the ex-vice consul Harry Joseph are not valid and has led them to believe that these include inspectors "designated" by Joseph in several communities under that consular jurisdiction.
The investigated files were supposedly issued during Joseph’s second tenure without official endorsement, at least not from Haiti’s Foreign Ministry and he becomes first consular official dismissed from his functions by Rene Preval’s government. He was implicated Last April in an unauthorized operation to contract 200 Haitian laborers and illegal trafficking, and denounced in the www.espacinsular.org website.















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@Colocolo,
Frè mwen Nou pafè menas a okenn moun. Nou kwè lan yo sosyete kote toumoun gen dwa fè opinyon yo pase lib e libè.
Sensèman, Ed

Mèsi pou klarifikasion sa a.

Se konsa na va bati yon sosiete miyo.

Kenbe di e ekri pi souvan pa bo isit.


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Santo-Domingo, 22 June 2006 (AHP) Dominican intelligence agents received
funds from the public treasury of Gérard Latortue¹s interim regime at the
request of Vice-Consul Harry Joseph, according to correspondences and
reports addressed directly by him to the former provisional Prime
Minister.

According to a copy of a correspondence dated 3 February 2005 that was
addressed to Mr. Latortue, Harry Joseph, a former New York radio host,
noted that ³following an invitation from the Director General of the DNI,
Major Ochoa was designated to work with us with regards to any issue that
relates to the National Security of Haiti in the Dominican Republic.²

The correspondence indicates that, ³Our new Chancellor, promptly advised of the matter, rapidly moved to send Mr. Jacky Nau to represent him" (Mr. Nau is a former member of the Haitian army and former police commissioner). This was probably done at a meeting with a number of Dominican officials, although this
isn¹t specified in the correspondence.

³The team that will be working with us needs four cell-phones, vehicles,
motor fuel, as well as funds amounting to four-thousand eight-hundred
dollars (US$ 4,800.00).

The correspondence, signed by Vice-Consul Harry Joseph, adds: ³tomorrow,
Friday, you will receive a visit from Mr. Jean Bertin and this Sunday, in
the company of DNI agents, we will carry out an operation in Dajabon where
we suspect that René Civil and Paul Raymond are being sheltered. Mr. Jacky
Nau, will be able to furnish you with more information.²

On another occasion, Vice-Consul Joseph directed to the Premiership a memo
dated 14 January 2005 bearing the title ³Intelligence Report/National
Security.² The note states that, ³The Dominican Republic constitutes a
true bastion for those belonging to the Lavalas power structure. Almost all the
insecurity prevailing in Haiti is being stoked by these individuals.²

These findings were denounced by ŒEspacio Insular,¹ the online Dominican
news-agency specializing in Haitian-Dominican relations, in an article
that was published this Thursday on the heels of International Refugee
Day.

The article denounces, ³the campaign of persecution conducted by Mr.
Joseph against Haitian citizens who fled their country for political
reasons following the forced departure of President Aristide (29 February
2004)²

Among the functionaries implicated in the affair, the agency cites former
Justice Minister Calixte Delatour, former ONA Director General Joseph F.
Oliva, former APENA Director Clifford Larose, former deputy Nahum Marcelus
and several former Police Commissioners.

According to ŒEspacio Insular¹ the intelligence services of the Dominican
to them based on false information that even high-ranking Dominican authorities never confirmed or denied publicly.

Interior and Police Minister Mr. Franklyn Almeida and the Secretary of
State of the Armed Forces Sigfrido Pared Perez in fact qualified as Œfalse¹
statements by Mr. Joseph according to which 75 members of the Fanmi
Lavalas party who were in Jamaica had made it to Dominican territory where
they were preparing attacks against the interim regime.

The same could be said about rumors concerning the arrival in the
Dominican Republic of 10 South African mercenaries who were allegedly
given the mission of assassinating political personalities and businessmen
in Haiti.

More than 80 out of the roughly 700 personalities that entered the
Dominican Republic following the departure of Aristide are mentioned in
Harry Joseph¹s reports to the de facto authorities.

The majority of these people had difficulties not only obtaining refugee
status in the Dominican Republic, but also had to live clandestinely for
fear of being arrested. This was in direct contrast to former rebels against the Aristide government who were able under the Mejía government to use Dominican territory to launch
attacks against the established authorities in Haiti without major
inconveniences.

Espacio Insular revealed that ³Youri Latortue, the cousin of the ex-Prime
Minister, administered a monthly National Security Fund estimated to be
valued at millions of gourdes; a part of which was directed to espionage
work geared at Haitian refugees in the Dominican Republic.²

Youri Latortue, a current Haitian senator supported by the International Republican Institute (IRI), which trained and funded those aggitated for the 2004 coup, has been implicated in various scandals. In the recent past, Joel Deeb, a Haitian-American arms dealer who has reportedly brokered deals with Youri Latortue since the February 29, 2004 ouster of President Jean Bertrand Aristide, states that Youri Latortue is a drug smuggling “Kingpin,” with “close ties” to paramilitary leader Guy Philippe. For more information see "Have the Latortues Kidnapped Democracy in Haiti?"
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=8165
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Santo-Domingo, 22 June 2006 (AHP) Dominican intelligence agents received
funds from the public treasury of Gérard Latortue¹s interim regime at the
request of Vice-Consul Harry Joseph, according to correspondences and
reports addressed directly by him to the former provisional Prime
Minister.

According to a copy of a correspondence dated 3 February 2005 that was
addressed to Mr. Latortue, Harry Joseph, a former New York radio host,
noted that ³following an invitation from the Director General of the DNI,
Major Ochoa was designated to work with us with regards to any issue that
relates to the National Security of Haiti in the Dominican Republic.²

The correspondence indicates that, ³Our new Chancellor, promptly advised of the matter, rapidly moved to send Mr. Jacky Nau to represent him" (Mr. Nau is a former member of the Haitian army and former police commissioner). This was probably done at a meeting with a number of Dominican officials, although this
isn¹t specified in the correspondence.

³The team that will be working with us needs four cell-phones, vehicles,
motor fuel, as well as funds amounting to four-thousand eight-hundred
dollars (US$ 4,800.00).

The correspondence, signed by Vice-Consul Harry Joseph, adds: ³tomorrow,
Friday, you will receive a visit from Mr. Jean Bertin and this Sunday, in
the company of DNI agents, we will carry out an operation in Dajabon where
we suspect that René Civil and Paul Raymond are being sheltered. Mr. Jacky
Nau, will be able to furnish you with more information.²

On another occasion, Vice-Consul Joseph directed to the Premiership a memo
dated 14 January 2005 bearing the title ³Intelligence Report/National
Security.² The note states that, ³The Dominican Republic constitutes a
true bastion for those belonging to the Lavalas power structure. Almost all the
insecurity prevailing in Haiti is being stoked by these individuals.²

These findings were denounced by ŒEspacio Insular,¹ the online Dominican
news-agency specializing in Haitian-Dominican relations, in an article
that was published this Thursday on the heels of International Refugee
Day.

The article denounces, ³the campaign of persecution conducted by Mr.
Joseph against Haitian citizens who fled their country for political
reasons following the forced departure of President Aristide (29 February
2004)²

Among the functionaries implicated in the affair, the agency cites former
Justice Minister Calixte Delatour, former ONA Director General Joseph F.
Oliva, former APENA Director Clifford Larose, former deputy Nahum Marcelus
and several former Police Commissioners.

According to ŒEspacio Insular¹ the intelligence services of the Dominican
to them based on false information that even high-ranking Dominican authorities never confirmed or denied publicly.

Interior and Police Minister Mr. Franklyn Almeida and the Secretary of
State of the Armed Forces Sigfrido Pared Perez in fact qualified as Œfalse¹
statements by Mr. Joseph according to which 75 members of the Fanmi
Lavalas party who were in Jamaica had made it to Dominican territory where
they were preparing attacks against the interim regime.

The same could be said about rumors concerning the arrival in the
Dominican Republic of 10 South African mercenaries who were allegedly
given the mission of assassinating political personalities and businessmen
in Haiti.

More than 80 out of the roughly 700 personalities that entered the
Dominican Republic following the departure of Aristide are mentioned in
Harry Joseph¹s reports to the de facto authorities.

The majority of these people had difficulties not only obtaining refugee
status in the Dominican Republic, but also had to live clandestinely for
fear of being arrested. This was in direct contrast to former rebels against the Aristide government who were able under the Mejía government to use Dominican territory to launch
attacks against the established authorities in Haiti without major
inconveniences.

Espacio Insular revealed that ³Youri Latortue, the cousin of the ex-Prime
Minister, administered a monthly National Security Fund estimated to be
valued at millions of gourdes; a part of which was directed to espionage
work geared at Haitian refugees in the Dominican Republic.²

Youri Latortue, a current Haitian senator supported by the International Republican Institute (IRI), which trained and funded those aggitated for the 2004 coup, has been implicated in various scandals. In the recent past, Joel Deeb, a Haitian-American arms dealer who has reportedly brokered deals with Youri Latortue since the February 29, 2004 ouster of President Jean Bertrand Aristide, states that Youri Latortue is a drug smuggling “Kingpin,” with “close ties” to paramilitary leader Guy Philippe. For more information see "Have the Latortues Kidnapped Democracy in Haiti?"
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=8165
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Santo-Domingo, 22 June 2006 (AHP) Dominican intelligence agents received
funds from the public treasury of Gérard Latortue¹s interim regime at the
request of Vice-Consul Harry Joseph, according to correspondences and
reports addressed directly by him to the former provisional Prime
Minister.

According to a copy of a correspondence dated 3 February 2005 that was
addressed to Mr. Latortue, Harry Joseph, a former New York radio host,
noted that ³following an invitation from the Director General of the DNI,
Major Ochoa was designated to work with us with regards to any issue that
relates to the National Security of Haiti in the Dominican Republic.²

The correspondence indicates that, ³Our new Chancellor, promptly advised of the matter, rapidly moved to send Mr. Jacky Nau to represent him" (Mr. Nau is a former member of the Haitian army and former police commissioner). This was probably done at a meeting with a number of Dominican officials, although this
isn¹t specified in the correspondence.

³The team that will be working with us needs four cell-phones, vehicles,
motor fuel, as well as funds amounting to four-thousand eight-hundred
dollars (US$ 4,800.00).

The correspondence, signed by Vice-Consul Harry Joseph, adds: ³tomorrow,
Friday, you will receive a visit from Mr. Jean Bertin and this Sunday, in
the company of DNI agents, we will carry out an operation in Dajabon where
we suspect that René Civil and Paul Raymond are being sheltered. Mr. Jacky
Nau, will be able to furnish you with more information.²

On another occasion, Vice-Consul Joseph directed to the Premiership a memo
dated 14 January 2005 bearing the title ³Intelligence Report/National
Security.² The note states that, ³The Dominican Republic constitutes a
true bastion for those belonging to the Lavalas power structure. Almost all the
insecurity prevailing in Haiti is being stoked by these individuals.²

These findings were denounced by ŒEspacio Insular,¹ the online Dominican
news-agency specializing in Haitian-Dominican relations, in an article
that was published this Thursday on the heels of International Refugee
Day.

The article denounces, ³the campaign of persecution conducted by Mr.
Joseph against Haitian citizens who fled their country for political
reasons following the forced departure of President Aristide (29 February
2004)²

Among the functionaries implicated in the affair, the agency cites former
Justice Minister Calixte Delatour, former ONA Director General Joseph F.
Oliva, former APENA Director Clifford Larose, former deputy Nahum Marcelus
and several former Police Commissioners.

According to ŒEspacio Insular¹ the intelligence services of the Dominican
to them based on false information that even high-ranking Dominican authorities never confirmed or denied publicly.

Interior and Police Minister Mr. Franklyn Almeida and the Secretary of
State of the Armed Forces Sigfrido Pared Perez in fact qualified as Œfalse¹
statements by Mr. Joseph according to which 75 members of the Fanmi
Lavalas party who were in Jamaica had made it to Dominican territory where
they were preparing attacks against the interim regime.

The same could be said about rumors concerning the arrival in the
Dominican Republic of 10 South African mercenaries who were allegedly
given the mission of assassinating political personalities and businessmen
in Haiti.

More than 80 out of the roughly 700 personalities that entered the
Dominican Republic following the departure of Aristide are mentioned in
Harry Joseph¹s reports to the de facto authorities.

The majority of these people had difficulties not only obtaining refugee
status in the Dominican Republic, but also had to live clandestinely for
fear of being arrested. This was in direct contrast to former rebels against the Aristide government who were able under the Mejía government to use Dominican territory to launch
attacks against the established authorities in Haiti without major
inconveniences.

Espacio Insular revealed that ³Youri Latortue, the cousin of the ex-Prime
Minister, administered a monthly National Security Fund estimated to be
valued at millions of gourdes; a part of which was directed to espionage
work geared at Haitian refugees in the Dominican Republic.²

Youri Latortue, a current Haitian senator supported by the International Republican Institute (IRI), which trained and funded those aggitated for the 2004 coup, has been implicated in various scandals. In the recent past, Joel Deeb, a Haitian-American arms dealer who has reportedly brokered deals with Youri Latortue since the February 29, 2004 ouster of President Jean Bertrand Aristide, states that Youri Latortue is a drug smuggling “Kingpin,” with “close ties” to paramilitary leader Guy Philippe. For more information see "Have the Latortues Kidnapped Democracy in Haiti?"
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=8165
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Bon, poukisa pou Ari Jozef ta rantre an Ayiti si li pa gen anyen serye li pral regle? Nou menm ki pa rantre la zafè moun, se ak anpil kè sote lè nou mete pye nou sou tè papa Desalinn te kite pou nou an. Sitwayen ki lan peyi a ap pran lanmè pou yo vole gagè, e yo di ke peyi a se yon lanfè...
Nou ta renmen pou gouvenman Preval/Pyè-Lwi a rele lajistis tout moun ki volè byen leta. Li lè pou toutmoun ki gen dwèt siperyè lan byen leta a pase douvan jij natirèl yo.
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Colo ' Joel ak Piporiko


Finalement Yvon Neptune reprend les mêmes arguments que j,ai avancés dans ce forum. A savoir que le parti Fanmi lavalas devra fonctionner comme un véritable parti politique. Yvon Neptune dit qu'il faut dire la vérité mais cette vérité est que JBA devra avoir le courage de faire un geste...patriotique; Libérer le parti .
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